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NORTH TARRYTOWN PLANNING BOARD

September 10,1987

Present:
Chairman James Galgano
Miguel Jimenez
Frank Rey
Ray Windas
Vill. Administrator Tom Homan
Building Inspector Jim Margotta
Village Attorney John Hughes

Chairman Galgano called the meeting to order at 8:10p.m.
I. North Tarrytown Associates Site Plan
Chairman Galgano asked Mr. Lackowitz if he had received a
submission in regard to the water runoff. Mr. Lackowitz said he
had not, nor had the engineer been in touch. A written report with
backup calculations of storm drainage and sanitary sewage is needed,
along with a fire flow for the site. Hydraulic calculations are
needed. A copy of such was given to Mr. Karpel.
Mr. Wiedle said he would draft a resolution with all the
particulars as requested by Mr. Homan. He noted the need for a
hidden emergency exit and entrance. Mr. Lackowitz agreed. He said
he had met with the fire department who want an extra access to the
property from Amos Street. Mr. Karpel agreed, saying he was originally
told an emergency exit was not wanted as some feared its purpose
would be abused. Mr. Karpel saidsuch an entrance/exit could be designed.
Mr. Margotta asked what good would the access be in inclement
weather?He noted a concern that the access road might be neglected,
Mr. Karpel said if the road were paved and kept clear, no problem
should arise, Mr, Wiedle said the use of the emergency access road
should be included in the resolution. He also noted that cars must
be prevented from using the access road - the use is only for emergency vehicles.

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Mr. Windas said he felt this called for a public hearing,
and Mr. Hughes concurred. Mr,Windas noted ho

residents of the

area expressed such concern at the last public hearing. He
suggested that the Planning Board wait for this issue to be discussed.
In sum, Chairman Galgano said that storm, sewage and emergency
exit are the remaining issues. He asked Mr. Karpel that a written
report be sent to Mr, Lackowitz, with alternate proposals included
for the emergency exit.
Mr, Lackowitz noted results of the fireflow test from Webber Ave,,
noting static pressure was 103 psi, and that the flow of hydrant #10
began at 1,030 p/minute, lowering to91 psi.
Mr. Karpel said Mr. Crocco would draw up some new sketches.
Chairman Galgano asked Mr. Lackowitz to make a standard form
with a list of needed requirements for Mr. Margotta to give people
before hearings so that all needed information is obtained in
advance. Mr. Windas said such a similar format could be done for
a site plan review. Chairman Galgano agreed.
II.Frank Mangierifs

Site Plan

Mr. Walsh, representing Mr. Mangieri, said he would give a
sketch plan to see if it would meet with the parking and fire
department's access needs. He said more data will be needed, but
for tonight he was asking for EAF. He said drawings would show no
negative impact on the environment. Mr. Hughes said there would be
no positive or negative declaration tonight.
Mr. Hugheasaid this would be an unlisted action. Mr. Hughes
said the Planning Board would become the lead agent. He read a
proposed resolution (see attached).

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A motion to accept said resolution was made by Mr, Windas,
seconded by Mr. Rey and

passed by a unanimous vote,

A resolution to classify this as an unlisted action was moved
by Chairman Galgano, seconded by Mr. Rey, and passed by a
unanimous vote.
Mr. Windas asked if all basic plans had been submitted.
Mr. Walsh said he had done so, and had seen the fire department.
Mr. Fuller reviewed his report
1. He noted that all environmental

for the Board.
pbcedures had been covered.

2. He asked for a written record of all variances granted by the
Zonong Board.
3. He asked if the pedestrian section of the property would be
connected to the property on the north side, and would it be open
to the public.
4. In regard to the parking area, he^felt the circulation area was
very tight, that a 9%ft. width for the lane was inadequate.
Mr.

Turnquist assured him the width was 12 ft. , not 9k ft.

5. He expressed concern over the narrowness ;of the garage doors
which he said should be 9feet wide. Also, no parking zones are
needed in the driveway area. Parking space #12 is not big enough,
and should be eliminated.
6. A guide rail or fence between Mr. Mangieri's property and other
lots should be considered, along with

the need for handicapped

ramps.
Mr, Hughes said the major issue appeared to be parking.
Mr, Turnquist then showed new parking plans to the'Board. The
fire department had expressed a concern over the width of of the
ingress-a20 foot wide entrance from Gesner was needed.

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By eliminating present parking sites 1,2,3 and 12, and putting
8 spaces next to the present building, along with 8 spaces next
to the proposed building, the 20 foot width requirement would
be solved. Mr. Walsh noted this would make the walkway area safer
and easier to get to. The wider 20 foot driveway would serve as
both the ingress and egress for the fire department.
Mr. Mangieri

asked how the widened driveway would affect

the curb area on Chestnut. One parking space might be lost, said
Mr. Walsh, yet there would be more spaces on the property.
Mr. Wiedle asked if this was an increased intensity of land
use. Mr. Walsh noted this permanent easement division was better,
as the redesign gives all spaces needed. Mr. Hughes agreed.
Mr. Walsh said that the value of the main project must include
the value of the easement. Mr. Hughes said that would be decided later.
Mr. Wiedle noted a future possibility for a pedestrian walkway from Beekman Ave. to Chestnut St. with this site plan. Mr. Mangieri
also noted that the change in the entrance/exit area, with fewer
parking spaces next to the proposed building would be better for
the fire department.
Mr. Hughes asked how many bedrooms would the apartments have.
Mr. Walsh said plans were for four 1-bedroom units and six
2-bedroom units. Mr. Hughes noted the present ruling calls for 1.2
parking spaces per unit. This ruling may be modified to a new code
of one space per dwelling unit, and one half space per bedroom.
Mr. Walsh said he felt the 1.2 space per dwelling should apply here.
Mr. Wiedle said he was satisfied as long as the fire department

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could get in, turn around and get out onto Chestnut St.
Mr. Lackowitz noted that Gesner would not have been a good
exit for the fire department. Mr. Wiedle asked that Mr. Mangieri
consider as embellishment the following:
sight-lighting for pedestrians
more detail for the landscaping
the

exterior facades

Mr. Walsh said these items would be covered in the final site
plan,as would ISQfcalculations and storm water calculations.
III. Larry Rodrigues' Site Plan
It was noted that Mr. Rodrigues was out of the country, and
this matter would be discussed at a later date.
IV. Site Plan for
This piece of land is located at the corner of Broadway and
Bedford Road, site of the former Tom's Exxon, property is designated
on village map as Section 17-Block 12-Lot 1 and owned by Dominic
LaCaruba, with applicant being Dominic LaCaruba.
Mr. Viedle noted the busy intersection where this site is,
and said parking spaces 4 and 5 as they appear on the site plan,
off of Hudson Terrace might be unsafe. He asked if more parking
spaces were possible on Hudson Terrace .
Mr. Margotta said the plans had been sent to the county. They
don't allow for an exit or entrance closer than 37 feet to a corner
on a state road. As this would be for a new use of this land, the
present rules

would apply.Bedford Road and Hudson Terrace would

still be available for such use.

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Mr. Wiedle noted this is one of the most important sites in the
village, and the plans need a lot of thought, and must be done
as well as possible. Mayor Gandolfo agreed, saying this is the
village's gateway, Mr. Homan said proper lighting

and landscaping

would be important. Functionally, more thought must be given to
parking, said Mr. Wiedle. After discussing possible alternatives
for parking, entrance and exit, Mr. Wiedle asked that they bring
assigned proposal to the next meeting.
Chairman Galgano noted a variance would be needed to begin
with. Mr. Hughes asked Board members if they wanted to send this
matter to the Zoning Board. All agreed, as at present the plans
could not be approved. Mr. Lackowitz said the DOT might have a
voice in these plans. Mr Rey said the idea was good, but suggested
that the area in front on Broadway be kept as free from parking
as possible. Chairman Galgano noted the county would notify the
state. A resolution was made by Chairman Galgano that this site
plan be recommended to the Zoning Board, seconded by Mr. Rey, and
was carried with a unanimous vote.

Subdivision of James Galgano's Property - 54 Gory Brook Road
Mr. Windas presided over the meeting. Mr. Galgano requested a
subdivision of his lot, that has an existing building,Mr. Windas
noted. This lot could be subdivded with a second lot on his land
off of New Broadway.
Mr. Windas asked if the sewar,water and electrical lines fed
to his present house from Gory Brook Road. Mr. Galgano said no,
the lines were from New Broadway, and through the^subdivided lot.

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It was noted by Mr. Hughes that a public hearing on this
subdivision was held at the last meeting, but not voted upon,
as a quorum was not present. Mr. Windas asked if there were any
easements to be noted? Mr. Galgano said they were in a deed.

A ist

of three resolutions were made for the subdivision of

Mr. James Galgano*s property (see attatched).
A motion to accept the resolutions was made by Mr. Rey,
seconded by Mr. Jimenez, and carried by a unanimous vote.
Mr. Homan noted a memo dated Aug, 4,1987 re recreation fees
to be charged to developers on new projects. The Planning Board
could make a formal recommendationon an amount to the Board of
Trustees. At present the village charges no such fee. Mr. Wiedle
said $1,500- $2,000 per lot is not uncommon.

A condccminium is

coum+ad as one lot.
Mr. Windas said this is an exhcange for a loss in recreation
area, but feels such a fee is too high.

Chairman Galgano felt

the Planning Board's action isn't needed by the Board of Trusteees;
the idea is fine, but not within the mandate of the Planning Board.
Mr. Wiedle said the charter says the Planning Board's advice is
to be given when asked,

Mr. Windas asked Mr. Wiedle to provide

the Board with some guidelines.
Mr. HtLghes noted a zoning change on parking with forthcoming
in October.

He asked Board members fo^their comments.

Mr. Windas'

concern is that the Zoing Board grants vairances anyway.

Chairman

Galgano said larger units might need more spaces per unit than
smaller units.

Mr. Margotta feels too many applicants try to

outmaneuver by requesting for more than possible hoping to settle
for fewer spaces than orginially needed,

Mr. Hughes said he would

prepare a member to Board Members re possible new plans for parking.

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There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned
at 10: 20 p.m.
Respectfully submitted

Linda T. Fukuchi

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