https://sleepyhollow.localarchives.org/files/original/240694d2d49617178eac71bdce600d23.pdf c622e2b6c570c23dc25bd892c2586b88 PDF Text Text HORTH-TARRXTOWN, N.X» April 27, 1955 A Public Hearing was held by the Zoning Board of Appeals of the Village of North Tarry town, N«Y« on the application of Mr* William Onderdonk in a variance for rear line and side line restrictions* E£§L&§atL, « Edward B, Gumming;s, Chairman Neil Oollogly David Pag© Rutherford stihard Patrick Powers, Jr3, Counsel Chairman Ouramings called the meeting to order at StlQ P«M« and read notice of hearing, Mr, Onderdonk requested permission to "build an addition, not to exceed 12 feet "in width and 22 feet in depth to the east Bide of his garage zma that the easterly wall of the proposed addition would be not less than 4 feet from the easterly side line of his premises and the rear wall not less than 8 feet from the real* line* Mr* Gollogly inquired of Mr. Onderdonk the width of the garage upon completion• Mr* Onderdonk stated that it would be twelve feet wide or possibly leon* After a brief discussion* Mr* Stinard moved, seconded by Mr* G-oilegly that the applicant, Mr* William Onderdonk, be granted a variance from side ' "line and" rear-, yard restrictions* provided that a side area of at least four feet and a rear yard area of at least ten feet be maintained on the premises in question* "CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY11 There being no further business to come before the Board, Chairman Cutnmlngs declared that, the meeting be adjourn ecu. Respectfully submitted^ Filomena Fallacaro Clerk.' �ZONING BOARD OP APPFALS VILLAGE OF NORTH TARRyW-'N »i* mv W* •*> MP MB -S» «• *« •• •* «H W «tf MB I n t h e M a t t e r of Complaint of «M M0 X : I . M. GRELLKR, Complainant, : -against- : FVFRGP*^ 3IANOR, I N C . , : Respondent* „„ „ „ : „ X N o r t h T a r r y t o w n , N . Y . , A p r i l 2 1 , 1955 B^FORF; FDV:ARD B. CTM^TNGS, Chairman, and Patrick J, Powers, Village Attorney, Advisory - Membprs of Zoning Board of Appeals: RUTHERFORD L. STFVARD NEIL GOLLOGLY DAVID PAGF APPFARANCFS ANGFLO F. ZTTCGARO,- FSq. Attorney for Complainant 17 North Broadway Tarrytown, New York JAMFS H. SHIMBFRG, FSO. Attorney for Respondent 565 Fifth Avenue New York, New York �MR. CUMMINGS: The meeting w i l l come bo o r d e r p l e a s e * This i s an informal meeting only and i t ' s f o r t h e main purpose of t h e enlightenment of t h e Board, v *e would l i k e t o p.et d e t a i l e d in- formation on how t h e c u b i c a l c o n t e n t of t h e s e houses was d e t e r m i n e d . The q u e s t i o n of i n t e r p r e t a t i o n of the code i s a f f e c t e d by sone d a t a which was s u b m i t t e d by t h e Taxpayers 1 A s s o c i a t i o n and our main p o i n t we'C l i k e t o know a t what p o i n t s would t h e c e i l ' r v ^ s h»iHats and f l o o r h ^ i ^ h t s , what p o i n t s . \vpw us^d and a l s o who t h e r the basements on t h e e x i s t i n g houses which would f a l l w i t h i n the same classification as a new house 9 whether t h o s e basements v/^re included in t h e c u b i c a l c o n t e n t of t h e e x i s t i n g houses as computed. *Tow we have some i n - formation from t h e T a x p a y e r s ' A s s o c i a t i o n , I b e l i e v e * he-e i s p r e s e n t . ?-'r. ffeath V.'ill you ^ive your name? MR, rJEATH: My name i s C u r t i s Heath. I am a member of the Zon'ncA c.: =/;i l.'toe of t h e Sleepy Hollo?/ Manor Taxpayers 1 Association. ,r *e p.Ou vour l e t t e r Mr. Chairman, i u s t v e s t e r d a v and we c o n t a c t e d Mr. Cooley t h e a r c h i t e c t who a s s i s t s us t o ask him whether he would be here and be a v a i l a b l e t o you gentlemen and. he t o l d us t h a t he had a p r e v i o u s ^ngap.ement t h a t he couldn*t b r e a k on such s h o r t n o t i c e . So he has p r e p a r e d some d a t a which ¥v, in a memorandum herei which MR. CU/iJujJCrS: MR. I-f^ATH: T 1,r Caleb C u r t i s has incorporated wll3 hand t o y o u . ould you c a r ? t o r e a d i t a l o u d ? Y e s , I mi«?ht say b e f o r e I r^ad t h i s t h a t f.ir. Zinrraro has c a l l e d my a t t e n t i o n t o an e r r o r which I b e l i e v e ^s an & rror- n ^ a r t h e bottom - l o t 7 , Block 3 . I t h i n k Mr. Cooley has t h e v/ronp: fi^ur^ 5 because -T have a p r e v i ous s t a t e m e n t s u b m i t t e d by Mr. Cooley which g i v e s t h a t f i g u r e d i f f e r e n t l y and when I read 5t off, T v a i l F a " a n o t h e r f i rp.r^ anc I am c u i t e s u r e t h e o t h ^ r f i g u r e �5a the correct one because we've had that house in question many times. The statement is as followst "The cube of existing and new houses is computed by multiplying the exterior dimensions of the building, in the horizontal r>lane, determining the area, multiplied by the height betreen the bottom of the sill plate and th^ ton of the ceilinn; joists. In short, the exterior dimensions of the construction envelope enclosing the livable epfi.-e multiplied provi de the cube, The original required cube was computed from actual measured dimensions of existing residences before new construction was actively started in the Manor, approximately July 1953, Eighty five percent of the average cube of the houses within a radius of 400 feet of the proposed new residence determined the required cube* The following tabulation illustrates the Drocedure for Block 7 Lot 18: Residence of Calculated Cube Mr. Vanderwater 16,850 Vente 231520 Mullis 27^877 Ode11 22,387 Niesse 17,922 Holt 19,899 Akin i 31,710 Collins 33,842 Bronson 21,732 Robinson 26,792 " Those ten houses total 242,531, and you divide that by ten and multiply by eighty five nercent and your result is 20,615. Then the memorandum mentions that two houses were built in the late summer of 1953 reducing the required cube to 20,245* Now that figure that I .just read does not reflect the mistake that I mentioned a minute ago. I v/ill try to do the mathematics again. The previous total of ten houses was 242,531. Then Block 7, Lot 3 rp which is Mr, Millar1s house, as corrected, that should be 24,597; Block 7, Lot 4 which is Mr. McCann's house 20,464, making a total �of 2~<5,818; divided by 12 and multiplied by eighty five percent reduces that figure that I mentioned before which is incorrect and he v/ill make the recalculation* "The house filed for Block 7, Lot IB, is computed as follows: Entrance and unper l^vel, 1,716 so. fe-ofc x 10 f which he computes as the height o ' that particular portion, eouals 17,160, Lower level, and I think by that he means the lower level room, 430 so, feet x 8,4, meaning the he1 ^ht eouals 3,6125 Total of 20,772, "The forewo*rig is information prepared by George H, Cooley, architect employed by the Association. CALEB CIIHTIS Buildinp. Committee Chairman Sleepy Hollow Taxpayers!Association I might make just one comment at this particular hearing, V'e v,lsh to be neutral for two reasons, one is that our committee having passed this house, we don't feel that we want to take a position of retracting, as being possibly unfair to the builder. On the other hand we don't want to take the position adverse to our residents, many of whom feel that this particular room should not be included in the cube. The second reason is that our position that we took originates from a meeting we had on a somewhat similar room two years ago. It was not on a peculiar lot of this kind, Tl'e felt at the timet that the question was nuite difficult and troublesome, "e had the napers of. an appeal of this Board all drawn up and v/e debated filing it. We ended ur» by not filing it. I'd like to point out that we are not experts in the building field. v 'e feel that this Board is probably In a better position to decide things of this kind than we have been. You have the benef5.t of two counsel having studied this particular nuestion in great detail, I know both of these counsel, one of them personally, and one by refutation and I am sure that they uill furnish you with really the results of �some r e a l l y hard work and c.ood t h i n k i n g on t h e t m e s t i o n and we f e e l t h a t whatever you decide w i l l be a good d e c i s i o n . tfay I f i p s t make t h i s recomputation so t h a t t h e f i g u r e s vi11 be c o r r e c t and hand t h i s t o you? MR, CURINGS: YRS, ^urp. Nov.- w i l l you answer i f you a r e a b l e , are any of th^sn ^x'st^np; h o u s e s , do t h e y hnvfi a basement a r e a or a volune 3* »•.-.* l a r t o t h e one under «uostjon and i f s o , w i l l you t e l l us? MR. RFATH: I am s u r e - we fcr5ed t o follow a c o n s i s t a n t r u l e in computing cubes of e x i s t i n g houses and computing cubes of new houses proposed t o be b u i l t , and Mr, Cooley has t o l d me t h a t wherever t h e r e a r e base??ient rooms - and he has by f o l l o w i n g t h e r u l e of I n c l u d i n g basement rooms where t<iey a r e more t h a n 50$ of ground l e v e l - where t h e r e a r e s i m i l a r rooms in e x i s t i n g houses he has i n c l u d e d them because he i n c l u d e s them on t h e new houses * Now I am n o t s u r e hoy; many of t h e s e e x i s t in??, houses have such basement rooms* I t h i n k Bob Akin has s t a t e d t h a t he has a f i n i s h e d basement room, and he does n o t know whether a t 's exactly comperable t o the room you have in q u e s t i o n or not* MR* CUM-TNfKj; n1he one c o n s t r u c t e d very f r a n k l y i s t h e one above t h i s h o u s e , f=*R. HFATH: I might say t h i s , t h i s committee may o u e s t i o n t o compute t h e cube of t h a t M i l l a r house i t s e l f * I say t h a t for t h i s r e a s o n , when Mr. Cooley computed t h i s cube which i s on hnve, i t was from the p l a n s ; and I did h e a r , t h a t when t h a t house was b u i l t , i t v;as or5f' t 1nall xr planned t o s i n k t h e house i n t o �the ground and when they got there, they found that there was so much rock that they had to build the house higher. Now that may make a difference. Now if we could help you by having Mr. Cooley come up and recompute that from the way it stands now, wefd b?5 glad to. On the other hand P Mr. Cooley has given his basis here and T think it would be fairly simple for one or more of you gentlemen to go there and do the cubing yourselves• "'e'll do whatever you want on that, MR. CUMMINGS: Well that would be up to the Board. Have you gentlemen any nuestions? MR. STFVARD: I have one ouestion. . MR. CURINGS: Go ahead, Mr. Stevard. MR. STEVARD: Mr. Heath, in cubing the house, did Mr. Cooley take into account how it was determ5ned which house was within the 400 feet radius? Mr, fTYxTH: You take from the center of the proposed residence and he computed from a map which is a photostat of the original map of the Manor filed over in the County Clerk1s Office in White Plains. There is a possibility of error, I suppose, in going from the map because the map doesn't show the precise location of the existing houses. On the other hand, there is a difficulty in doing it, at least in tiiis residence, by trying to measure by the terrain bfGause it's so much up and down hill. ,v e feel that doing it from that map, it is reasonably accurate, although there may in some instances be some debateable points. Very-often you get nuite close.to a house in striking ~6- �your radius on a man, MR. STFVAFD: The r e a s o n T ask^d t h a t , Mr. C h a i r m a n , i f T mif»;hfc p o i n t o u t a p o i n t , I ' m n o t t o o f a m i l i a r w h e t h e r t h e IRW say? Hie house I t s e l T 6v t h e ?/!F. PO,vERS: property, Houses, MR. STKVA^D: "Ti^ther it'1 s the house or whether th^ radius passes through the property? MR, POV^RS: Suppose we read the section,* MR, CUMMISGS: Y°s. - MR. POV'ERS: " 'Adjacent residence* means a buildSng located in a Residence 'A* district sjid used for resident5al purposest any part of which is located within a circle having a radius of 400 feet measured from the central point of the proposed new residence", MR. ST~VARD: In other words, it's the structure itself, not the property. MR. CUM^INGS : That! s riofnt * MR. l-OyT*?S: MR. CTM^INGS: Do you h a v e any q u e s t i o n s , N e i l ? MR. GOLLOC-LY: *To, n o t a t t h i s UP. CIIMT3GS: Dave? MR. PAG*7!: time. No, I h a v e n ' t r<ot a n y . MR. CUMIIINGS : h a v e any That's right. How a b o u t y o u , ?Ar. P o w e r s , do you nuestions? MR. PO-^RS: MR.- 3TFVAPB: by c o u n s e l ? No. May T have one more n u e s t i o n c l e a r e d �MR. Cmr-INGS: Go ahead. MR. ST^VAPD: Not knowing in this particular district when all these houses had permits issued for construction by the building department here, let us assume that the house in auestion or any house which may come up in the future? is started in a similar house, by another house within the 400 feet radius, hut which is not completed, does that house count within the cube in computing this for a permit in this new location; it affects this particular house; that's the po-*nt I'm asking. The plans would be on file* MR. FOV.-PS: That's correct. I would say that it would deal only with completed residences. MR. HF/VPH: May I comment on that? MR. PCV-VERS: Yes. MR. HFATH: I j u s t happened t o look a t t h e law, I d o n ' t want t o i n f r i n g e on your p e r o p j i t i v e s , but may I advance a view? MR. POVEFS: MR. H^ATrl: Go a h e a d . "Adjacent r e s i d e n c e " ho r e i s defined as a b u i l d i n g l o c a t e d i n a PesJdenee 'A' D i s t r i c t and U3ed for r e s i d e n t i a l p u r p o s e s . T4R. F0'""HS: if i t isn't I t c a n ' t be f o r r e s i d e n t i a l purposes completed: MR. ST^VA'B: MR. CrJfrf.fINCrS: ' " e l l t h a t ' s a f i n e p o i n t in law. Now Mr. Tamont would you care t o fdve �us a s t a t e m e n t i n t h i s nuestion? MR. LAMONT: Very b r i e f l y * I computed my cube in j u s t about t h e same f a s h i o n as Mr, Cooley; as w e l l a s Mr* Johnson, the Architect* I varied s l i g h t l y . by about 60 f e e t * I was a l i t t l e b i t h i g h e r Since T \va3 o v e r t h e r e o u i r e d cube, I didnft f o o l w i t h i t one way o r t h e o t h e r . v MR. CTM'^INfrS: "here did you o b t a i n your average c u b i c a l f i g u r e t o b a s e t h e s i z e of the house under q u e s t i o n ? MR, LAMONT: Frmm Mr. Cooley, MR. CURINGS: From Mr, Cooley? MR. LAMONT: From Mr. Cooley. MR. CTJMMINGS: MR. POY/ERS: Any q u e s t i o n s ? You used t h e i d e n t i c a l methods as used by t h e p r e v i o u s s p e a k e r i n i n d i c a t i n g t h e method of computing t h e cube? MR • • LATaOTCT: The only d i f f e r e n c e i s t h a t my hand book in so f a r a s the lower l e v e l \?as concerned, I used t h e f i g u r e 8.5 i n s t e a d of B . 4 , of four* I allowed s i x inches below i n s t e a d I t d i d n ' t mean t h a t much d i f f e r e n c e , .2 of a foot h a r d l y makes any d i f f e r e n c e a t a l l i n speaking of thousands of cubic feet. MR. POVFRS: And how did you f i g u r e t h e h e i g h t o f t h e room? MR. LAMONT: From t h e under s i d e of t h e s i l l — MR. POWEHS: Under s i d e of t h e ^m ** *• sill? �MR. LAMOKT: Fight, To t h e t o p of t h e c e i l i n g beam, I t ' s fi 2 x 8 f l o o r beam o r ^ o i s t p l u s two 2 x 6 ' s f o r a s i l l , 8 f e e t 6 i n c h e ^ i l i n ^ s p l u s 2 x 6 c e ^ l l n n ; beam, s q u a r e footagef 10 f e ^ t i n h e i g h t , MR. CUM ITOS; W e i l , any MB, OALLOGLY: Ho, I t h i n k t h a t I s t h e u s u a l method* MR. LAMONT: mentions? '"' , ) n * That is the u s u a l method. MR. CXJM.'"IWGS: Do you h a v e any o t h e r - v a e s t i o n s MR. PO,?:FRS? MR. PO,vKPS: No, MR. COAMINGS: MR. LAMONT: Mr, Lamont?" I m i g h t add t h a t t h a t method 5 s ' « i v o n i n a l m o s t a l l a r c h i t e c t u r a l hand b o o k s . I n t h e S t a t e B u i l d i n g Code a l m o s t t h e i d e n t i c a l method i s u s e d i n computing t h e c u b e . only difference of c o u r s e , i s what i s e x c l u d e d - t h a t ' s The the o n l y p o i n t - s u c h a s c e l l a r s , a t t i c s and p o r c h e s . MR. CUM&1IN03: MR. ZIMGARO: Mr. Zin.saro? I want t o a p o l o g i z e a t t h i s t i m e t h e a b s e n c e of Mr. O r e l l ^ r who i s i n F l o r i d a . for., I dlscovered that o n l y after- I r e c e i v e d t h e n o t i c e fv-om t h e Zonlnp; Board" t o appear at t h i s h e a r i n g . I immediately called h i s o f f i c e found o u t he was i n F l o r i d a . I t r i e d t o r<et from h i s and office t h e t e l e p h o n e number where h e c o u l d b e c o n t a c t e d , b u t no one t h e r e seemed t o know vine r e he i s . A p p a r e n t l y , h e d o e s n ' t want t o b»"* b o t h e r e d f o r a b o u t a month* _ He-was t h e o n l y man who c o u l d p r o d u c e t h e man who made h i s c a l c u l a t i o n s f o r hlrn, and n o t being �abl<? t o c o n t a c t Mr* O r e l l o r , T t h e r e f o r v;as unable t o c o n t a c t t h e man who made the c a l c u l a t i o n s . But I d o n ' t t h i n k w e ' r e concerned ho re w i t h t h e a c t u a l cube In t h i s b u i l d i n g ; w e ' r e j u s t arguing about what i t may be^ based on c e r t a i n submitted by Mr. Cooley* figures But I t h i n k Mr-, H e a t h ' s s u g g e s t i o n i s a very good one t o have Mr» Cooley go up t h e r e on t h e and t a k e t h e cube of t h e b u i l d i n g 93 i t MR, CUMfOTOS: field stands, T h a t ' s j u s t one £ That was r a i s e d by t h e Board, t h a t p a r t i c u l a r r e s i d e n c e . There may be o t h e r 3 , That v/as so obvious from l o o k i n g a t t h i s house f l o t 18 ^ t h a t t h e r e v/as a doubt i n our minds about t h e method of whether t h a t had been t a k e n i n t o c o n s i d e r a t i o n * MR. ZHJGARO: T a c c e p t e d t h e f i g u r e s s u b m i t t e d by Mr. Coolly, which were on f i l e h e r e in t h e V i l l a g e residence f o r t h e a d j o i n i n g houses w i t h i n a r a d i u s of 400 f e e t ; b u t vve had t h e cube of t h i s p a r t i c u l a r house on l o t 18 t a b u l a t e d , and t h e f i g u r e v;e got v/as much lower than t h e f i g u r e s u b m i t t e d by t h e builder, MR* CUM ;itfG-S: Does t h e Board have any q u e s t i o n s ? (Wo q u e s t i o n s ) MR. CUMKITTG3: •"-'hen would Mr, Cooley be a v a i l a b l e ? Does anyone have any i d e a when, Mr, Z i n g a r o , your Mr, G r e l l e r and h i s A r c h i t e c t and Mr, Cooley ?ould be a v a i l a b l e discussing t h i s for further? MR. ZTNGARO: Mr. teller. \ -11- -- ....... ./a*:. .. -•:- -4 �MR. CUfcMTNGS: MR. ZINGABO: MR, HEATH: Yea, and whatever A r c h i t e c t he h a d , I n about a month, O r d i n a r i l y Mr. Gooley would be a v a i l a b l e . MR. CURINGS: I understand t h a t , Tn o t h e r words i f arrangements were made f a r enough ahead, he v;ouid be a v a i l a b l e . Does t h e Board have any Questions? t h e s e gentlemen i f t h e r e MR. STKVARD: There i s no s e n s e i n h o l d i n g aren't, Why do we want Mr. Gooley t o refigure t h e same house t h a t he has a l r e a d y cubed? MR, CUM-aWS: To s e e whether or n o t i t ' s on t h e method of t a k i n g t h e basement a r e a s of a s i m i l a r t y p e as t h e house under q u e s t i o n c o n t a i n s , MR. STEVARD: D i d n ' t Mr, Gooley prove from t h e p l a n t h a t t h e cube was a c c e p t a b l e ? ?4R. EFATH: The nuest?on about recomputing came up on one h o u s ^ , namely, Mr. M i l l a r ' s house and I e x p l a i n e d t h a t t o my mind t h e r e i s a p o s s i b i l i t y , though I d o n ' t know how stronn; i t i s , t h a t t h e computation t h a t Mr. Gooley has f o r t h e cube of Mr. M i l l a r * s h o u s e , i t was made from t h e p l a n s as o r i g i n a l l y s u b m i t t e d ; may n o t conform w i t h t h e house t h a t ' s b u i l t because of the f a c t t h a t when t h e house was b u i l t , i t may have he.Gii moved u p , and not s e t i n t h e ground -suite so f a r as i t was shown by t h e o r i g i n a l , MR. STEVARD: plan. Mr. M i l l a r ' s house has been b u i l t how long? -12 �T t f s been b u i l t about, I d o n ' t know, MR. H^ATH: 1Q months perhaps, MR, cm r-7GS: One point i s t h a t t h i s house was cub^d from a s e t of plans only, not from an i n s p e c t i o n of the ground, so i t ' s p o s s i b l e t h a t the plans w i l l not r e f l e c t the physical elevation of the house I t s e l f , im. STWARD: s'ell i t ' s a check of t h e a c t u a l s i z e dimentions of. the house as against the submitted p l a n . MR. CmiltfOS: Y«s, and the elevation of t h e lower l e v e l , the lower p a r t , MR. RTSVAKD: I don't think Mr, Millar's house should have any bearing on the present house, MR. CUM?iItfGS: -MR. STrVARD: Well i t ' s within the 400 feet r a d i u s . Nov; t h i s house i s 90€ completed, 1 think we should forget Mr. M i l l a r ' s house i f i t ' s a few inches up or down, t h a t we c a n ' t recompute, the cuheage of t h i s house in question; I t h i n k we should forget Mr. M i l l a r ' s hous° and deal with t h e -luestion of t h i s p a r t i c u l a r house and t h i s question of 5Q:£ above grade or below grade. That has a beqr'nrr on the cube, not Mr, M i l l a r ' s house. MR. FCVr^HS: I t would have a bearing i n t h i s r e s p e c t , t h a t i f Mr. Mi l i a r ' s house, cubed as computed by fcr. Cooley, from the plans i s l a r g e r than they i n d i c a t e d on the p l a n s , i t i?ould t h e r e f o r e r a i s e the average of surrounding property. -13iiv*=rr*>5i*SS5S8^J^iA^^^S^^^^^*^«*fe- �r/!H. ST"VARD: v e i l we do know t h a t t h a t h a s been complied w i t h a l r e a d y . MR. CUMMINOS: No, t h a t ' s t h e p o S n t , we d o n ' t r e a l i z e what t h e cube o f Mr* M i l l a r ' s h o u s e i s * MR. H^ATKt 24597 MR, CTJMMINGS: Now t h e o u e a t i o n i s , does that f i g u r e i n c l u d e t h e basement a r e a o r does i t n o t ? MR, SHTHB^FG: Mr. C h a i r m a n , when Mr. H«ath r e a d t h e o r i g i n a l f i g u r e s which showed t h i s h o u s e a t 2 , 0 0 0 f e e t l ^ s s t h a n he now s t a t e s t h a t i t the figures - provided t h a t I'm right i s , i f you r e c o m p u t e on - i t makes a of l e s s t h a n 100 c u b i c f e e t i n t h e h o u s e * cubic difference Now I t h i n k that t h e p o s s i b i l i t y of e r r o r t h a t v / e ! r e t a l k i n g a b o u t , i s t h e p o s s i b i l i t y t h a t a basement 02" l o w e r l e v e l i n t h i s h o u s e . may n o t h a v e been t a k e n i n t o a c c o u n t a t t h e t i m e t h a t Mr* Gooley computed t h e c u b e , b e c a u s e i t may v a r y from t h e way t h e p l a n s were filed* ?4R. CTJMyiNGS: Yes, WR. STITMB^RG': Now even if this room in Question contained three or four thousand cubic feet, it ".-ould only raise the figure a hundred or two \zhGn you take the whole average and then take 85/' of it, so that the only ^point that I'm really concerned about h^re is this, that when we originally appeared befo:-e this Board - T think it was a little over two months af.o - I appreciate the Interest of -14- �the Board in wanting t o have a l l the facta at hand before i t conies t o a decision on t h i s m a t t e r , but we also a r e faced with an unfortunate s i t u a t i o n h^re where we hannen t o have a contract with c e r t a i n p a r t i e s t o s e l l them t h i s house which comes up a t a d e f i n i t e date; and although I don ! t want t o appear impatient or suggest t h a t a l l a v a i l a b l e information shouldn't be before the Board, X would .lust a p p r e c i a t e i t i f you took t h a t ^act i n t o consideration* I think the date fixed for the delivery of t i t l e in t h i s p a r t i c u l a r house. I believe i s th^ 1st of June, which'is now a date somewhat le3s than s i x weeks away; so t h a t i f some d r a s t i c changes should have t o be made 5.n t h i s house, somebody would be in nuite an embarrasing and d i f f i c u l t p o s i t i o n . I t would un- doubtedly be us • MR. CUMMIMGS: No ouest*on about i t . Has the Board any further comments or Questions? f:!R. ST~VARD: ouestion. I would l i £ e t o ask Mr, "Lamont one Tn the other hom^s up t h e r e t h a t you've constructed have yon computed s i m i l a r space as a p a r t of your acceptable cube? MR. LAMONT: Yes, s i r - every c a s e . The point 1%6 l i k e t o b r i n g out i s t h a t the "difference could be from one a r c h i t e c t or engineer t o a n o t h e r , j u s t a question of mathematical computations. 3 ? Does he use point tv?o or point The basic w-thod of cube computation i s laid cloven -15- �in hand book a f t e r hand book, Now if someone should decide he wanted t o be the kind of an expert to say Trm #oin<* t o be d i f f e r e n t than the r~st of the -.vorld, he would n a t u r a l l y come up with somewhat of a completely d i f f e r e n t figure, but I c a n ' t repeat t h i s too often, that the method I use and Cooley uses and Johnson us«s and the Buildi np, Department use8, are a l l in agreement. That's why I shudder when I think in terms of waiting for sane one t o come back in t h i r t y days or so with a house closing perhaps within s i x weeks, and I have d e l i b e r a t e l y slov/ed down a l l through the winter months doing as l i t t l e work as I possibly could, without losing my t r a d e s to produce the house slowly awaiting the decision of t h i s Board, I ' v e s t i l l got l o t s of vo rk ahead of m<* to complete; the s h e l l erected T.vhi ch i s the simplest p a r t of the house and the i n t e r i o r f i n i s h i n g s are the p a r t s t h a t count• MR. H^ATH: May I say something? take issue with Mr, Lam on t . would l i k e to say one tVdn.e;. I don't want t o I l i k e to be n e u t r a l , but I v hcm we o r i g i n a l l y s t a r t e d h/win^ thes» hous°s oub^d, ^ r , Coolev would use a d i f f e r e n t method which he said w&3 in accordance with a r c h i t e c t u r a l s t a n d a r d s , a permissible method under a r c h i t e c t u r a l s t a n d a r d s , and t h a t was not to do'unt the floor c o n s t r u c t i o n , t o count the upr>er top of the c^llinq; c o n s t r u c t i o n , but now I'm not sure which i t -.vas» You'didn't count both the cei liner -16- �c o n s t r u c t i o n and the f l o o r c o n s t r u c t i o n . Do you follov; what I ' m saying? WR. CtJiWlTGS: MR. H^ATH: Yes. The v/ay Mr. Cooley now does it, ho counts both5 and he does it uniformly for the existing houses and the new houses* How when he started out, he had an entirely different set of fip;ures for the existing houses, and also he computed new houses on that basis, and I think that my understanding from him is that either method is permissible under architectural standards. MR. CUMINGS: Mr. %?ngaro? MR. ZTMGA170: Mr, Chairman. I think the determination as to the exact cubeap;e of the Millar house would be important because assuming the Millar house contains six thousand more cubic feet than it actually does on the corrected calculation; then it v/ould brin.p; the present house under the cubic footage needed to build because of the houses within the area, within the immediate radius of 400 feet. It would brine* that house below the like aitiount of cub°. I think it is v^ry important. MR. CUM..TNGS: That will be determined mathematically viien the information is available, whbh Y/e hope to get very shortly. Any more questions or comment3? ( Ko answer ) MR. CTHnl^GS: The Board will adjourn the meeting no?; publ?cly and we * 11 ^o into an Executive session. 'Thank -T7- �you gentlemen for appearing t o n i g h t . -*'e w i l l get In touch with you very s h o r t l y , j»^ Certified to be a true and correct transcript of minutes of the hearing in the matter of complaint of !• M, Greller against Evergreen Manor, Inc. J^L£ a Rico, C.S."<R7 -13- � Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Zoning Board Minutes & Resolutions-1955 Text A resource consisting primarily of words for reading. Examples include books, letters, dissertations, poems, newspapers, articles, archives of mailing lists. 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