https://sleepyhollow.localarchives.org/files/original/7729dd894068be31cbff14b7f4c5a11c.pdf c3118e38a16296d4475ff3189595e565 PDF Text Text \0% ~y IN THE MATTER OP THE APPLICATION OP KENTUCKY FRIED CHICKEN of North Tarrytown, Arthur Carroll Jones j, Jr i President for Building Permit in C-l Zone -..: -Sr-r- »* MEMBERS OF THE ZONING^BOAH) V\-->•-'--•-<:|. . Present'•-•a t t h e Hearing were a s follows: ,4" 4-" James Friere ^CHAIRMAN :?- y ^May.22, Peter Esteban tVillage. Hall? — James Margotta ; "-North ! T a r r y t o w n , Edward Swaby "New York \;-.\ 1975;-^ John Arcate VIILAGE CIERK: Filomena F a l l a r c o VILLAGE ATTORNEY;/ David whalen;:Esq. '-^.i-- £3t™5.i..LE '-.--:--..i-i"Jfc s.-!-J -f-^. -i - a ^ ' . w v L ^ i . ^ i - . "•££=« iS»---,-;i- sK'-kfeS-tfisfe; Svii^^^&ISfeiii*:^ �.APPEARANCES: NicholasTA;.Robinson, Esq. JJ30 Park'Avenue New York/ .,,: New York FOR THE APPELLANT Stuart Mitchellv Esq; 81 First Avenue / Nyack New York IO96O .. FOR THE RESPONDED''"-' �-: • MR. VffiALEN:'•: Good ] evening, Ladles and ; Gentlemen. .' % 1 name" is'" Mr. Whalen.' I am ; >; theVillage Attorney of: the : Village of ' Noi^hTarrsrtown; Wehad a brief conference : '•-...• with the attorneys of the parties who are interested in the proceedjiig. - It has , beenagreed that:we" will "proceed according to "rules of evidence and-' the > CPLR. ; The chairman would havethe right: to ask the witnesses who will5 be'called^ by the parties -to give - ^ ' \ .:; sworn I testimony under the penalty of/ !A . ' :' perjury3":that willrpe:rtain to; the:it::/;::;;^V:V witness!by the parties3-ian^ne tha^Iwants: " --v\ tobe^heard 1 will not5be required to be •>-:-;>:i.;\', • I sworn. There has1 been!anfoccasion by the.•_ '•-•. ;•;; * attorney for taking the'^appealt/The ^; .^ = • * * > • % /"^'^y ': I : do not know how iiLicK.tijKMr. • Mtchell i»r:- . -_-,£ - we-oiigjit to take the".witnesses wH6'have been requested\ torcbtoe ^ herej and testify f-'~ • _ . I^eserrtaMon will takeYaboi^ will"require; thatrisiupjtb him. -• Vthink ^ & J^JS �3 . .first. I believe the Chairman w i l l open • -:.:;_ i t t o the r e s t of "/the"' People '/\-y'/ . ;. ' ;/ (FrankReese,. I D ' Apice S t r e e t , North JTarr^bwn^ New York) ; . :*.; MR. REESE:. I would like^jto recommend . . t h a t wheri'it comes timejfbr the'people ; '; - t o ask questions, you"have o n e f o r and W;,one a g a i n s t 5 / l n other words,, i t wouldn't • ''•'•?: be everybody f o r o n e side^ • _:.'_:j_:;; .>•=.' _•_ ; , -/-;- '=;•;-; OHE CHAIFMAN: Idcm'i'expect .; o r d e r l y . " v r ;';"-'-->-'"- = ' -. t •-' • ;.: -,''.-L..- ./.'-"./: : -7 : > ; ^ : /^M.^WHAIENi^ Anyone wha;isn^ ., t o , \ ':"-"'-.->' ';•'•.."•-"}have• a carnival arid I want i t t o be . ;• .;" / ; -:- -" • \ ; •--.,.•;.'---\. v -//:::_; a resident "of/North Tfetrrytc^ --:-•- : : r • _'. .-'-lie recognized. . :-^' ;• v : : } ; :^^f- - . f:r' v; v ; MR^SOBINSQN^/ I am N i c h o l a s ^ ^ i n s o r i ^ / ' <- '•'" ^ \ ^ i ^ a t t o r n e y * f ^ : * • • . % -/i : ., V ,;;•• have" t h e ^ a f f i d a v ^ ^ f :s / J l : a m now^pro^^^ 1"^: "^ V;;- -s £r;the^ Kentucl^ Fried C^ckeri^ and ^whichrl "? / ^ ; : ~^TT= : ^^MSSsM^ ^ I Q hand up"to ?you.,; : .All'the p r o p e r t y ^ r> . ;' �have been given the notice for this hearing. There also has been published a notice in /.: the Tarrytown Daily News s published by ';•; .the Clerk of the Village of the appellant ,"•-• and the payment of the ^publication 'notice. / MR/;ril?rC}ffiLL: J:-Ohe;'^titionvforitiiB'••" filed, stipulated and ordered. .To.^ .. refresh your recollection, -I will just briefly state.what.pthe. position-of the . appeal is, and'thefdocuSnt that is now \{: :before you for = your1 consideration. As ?" -; --.-' you know," an application was filed by'•:]:; .-.r, ':Gerald;GereMoh in North 'Ikrrytown"dated ?*;. June H3 197^ i! and ^presented plans; for .; •: ajrestaurant with^ared-:arid white roof." A: " buildlhg i^iTOitVwas"grafted for these' -V^;: plans' and this' appeal"wasftaken'\inmediately thereafter the.peirnit was issued, -v-' '''"--/'v. property was1 located' was ^a C-l zone••'.'l^jAy-f^ Now back in 19k6lin - '•*• this villa^^when/the^ 'i. & •^is^fiiiif-i'^sX^ _ - T-^0. ' " : i-T-4ife^£^^'>-.*>i f ^ i-\- *Jr^r *-PKOr£ r A^:<^ifesiviM«S �zoning ordinance was adoptedj there; y was one business zone/ arxi-thei^waisone industrial zone. You -go in ito the restaurant, : gas stations and clothing stores. .. They were in one• category.:. Ihe:witness will testify thatin 1964,^ a^z'orn^ was7changed to a special'*new zoning C-l 3 highway5 T > commercial- was restricted for gas ! stations £l the • zoning? ordinance ? of" the'v^ y ,-,;-• scheduling zoning ordinance provides'>;'£.f/~. ._';.%>''>:• in the C-l- Zone "that*- the^ following ^uses --' 'y.*-..^."" • will'be allowed: V These uses' are: -the^; :;. ; . ^ sale of new GC u s ^ ^autoiiobbiles^ga^ : service station,;auto body,repair shopiv -r ;-X';[ ^public futility? ;• * ";./." development group.v- 'Riese' are examples i_:[ > v! of high^conraercialractivity related to; v.' .: - -.*- / J-T-.- ; vehicular -traffic) and sales services 'of automobiles. : Those a r e t h e tyj^lpf ^ *-%m^- automobiles'[ and vehicular t r a f f i c " t h a t 5,-,-/-:^ /will'' belallowed, fii jifevi^onjo^^iZpng ST-- > t ^ - ? i - T--H-- . r •" •£ym*5*-*4(ijv;f£& — »$aSr ^1-4-SvL- - V ^ W ^ / i - ^ . ^ i W ^ ^ ^ �.6 which was generally commercial are the comnunlty. retail trade service center5and It is.under t M s we find for example banks,, offices, restaurant s, apartment s , and coimiuriity service activities. It'is our position that-the building permit . could hot be issued" for a restaurant in a vehicular zone because there was then exhibited ^adopted by the Board of Trustees s . the 'element that without;further .-discussion,! wiir7bniy draw your attention ? \ for oneother document "that is,'the decision"ofithe Hudson Valley Commission. *. It has created on the/Executive".Law of /._.the State of New York to review the "activity in the Hudson River Valley. Its decision ; is'not bindiligVon you;. However, when -i\. they, analyzed' the laws; of. this village' and -V: analyzed the proposal of .theKentucky Fried :%v J Chicken franchise they came to the 1 cbriclusiori - it was not an authorized use of the Village fi •^j^-^-^^^^^^i^^^MMs^^^^M^-^^^^^^^^mp^^^m^ �: . Zoning vd.thout further discussion, v T h e n I would call the first o f our three witnesses, Mr. Kheeland Moore,'who"appears a s a n :. ;."-' appellant i n this matter arid who h a s served a s a member o f the Planning Board : ~ o f this village at the time of : the . adoption.; . •':•-••' : M R . ROBINSON: • -.; MooreT•'•-;'s ; I call M r . Kneeland -\^ . .-" -:-, '.'•-'" ;;-' : = ••••'" M R . C H A I R M A N : / Please state your : name • and address: .M-. -"/-.-\"-VH ;* / (Mr. Kheeland'Moore, 5 Howard Avenue,"North Tarrytown, /r...."• '"• New York, r a witness oh behalf/of the' a p ^ l l a n t :was /-- • / f i r s t duly sworn by the Chairman of the Board; and t e s t i f i e d as follows:) "":.' \-\; sV : ,. - \-?. :,-/U^": . ?r / ; - ; ^ (Direct Ebcaitiination of Kneeland Moore by Mr .^Robinson) - .. • v'vf,'V- MR. ROBINSON: > Mr. Moore",• ^ v l o n g haVe' j/ou ;^; lived i n t h i s v i l l a g e ? I : , .- :: ; S : ? > - X '; 4> ":/:^-V �8 . MR. MOORE:' Since'1956. Q. And was .there a time when you were appointed to the Planning Board' of this Village? f . A/ Yes,^I was appointed in'April, 1963 f / /by Mayor Joseph Galgano. Q. How long did you serve on the Planning Board? ;h , r i •* : - - A. . I served until November 196*1, at which ' time: I'was appointed for a 5-year term in 1969, •4j\;'tx^'-f6r another five-year term.. _ Q. Are any of the . other•' members who served -; on the =PlannSg Board stm fI living r ln : the'Village?:f •;-.".".."-. ; -A. Yes, sir. A trustee,\Mary,War^.r. i. ; : v • '-•'. who is a member,; the Building Inspector,^ the . former Building Inspector is still.living here in - t ;1 ^town. Mr. Jerry Medantah1 who moved-away an^vf* , =."; ' :; •:,J'-' "two other members are no longer with usiH; ":;. : ^; v: ; r''."••-,...-,".;. Q. Did there come a time during your tenure v •;." when you were on the Board of Trustees' when" you considered to review arid adopt the zoning laws in 1964?*;./.- ; /;1 A. Yes,; wehacl it under consideration at the i . • time I came c« ^he Board, a niaster plan^for the Tarrytownsi .-* - ~*%- C-i"- • J^:^^*-kM±.±^.<&&&&&^ �That was for. a-revision or a revaluation which was the hub of this. It was the desire of the Village to participate in low and middle income housing arid the requirement was that there be a Master Plan. We took a look at the zoning ordinance ; that has riot been : changed"since 1964. Q. Did there in the course of your conferences at the Planning Board when you were looking only at the low . income housing, correct? 0.'v'v *' /A. Yes, That is correct! We went far,. beyond"that. We were looking for a complete plan to .";. .r help the Village agree in the f\iture or for the : best of all the parties concerned. ''•''"' .V-- Q. In the course; did you have any expert ;:assistance? ih. • j :; , 5r ; .,'_. ".-'WO-";:|;: <j,\j . o- Yesj we did. The Urban;Planning Association, which is located in New York and a" highly o^alif^ed'planning or^nization and consultant were -employed to- assist "us and a Mr. Barras of that firm spent many many"hours with us ;f>r? \ working as;a- consultant coming up with the provision;of 'the ordinance. ; *: '-;'•--"- ^ :; H3?>^~'- �10 4 . i :vv , j " jQ. In the consideration for the Master Plan, did you consider the appropriate use:for Route 9 arid .Broadway? '. . £ . r : .: " ; - , ;: "=v v ' ;A; Yes, we did. That instituted a problem. ' :\ .^MR. ES1EBAN:- rwould-lilceTto •''-}' --'- enter into an objection "that the witness^ : "" is going to testify to the declaration that the Planning Board had ^adopted by and conceded somewhere ^ . along theline /_ the Village adopted procedure for the adoption of such an ordinance. ; .However, it is highlyinappropriate for- • :V /.-'•- the declarationTor'partial declaration w M c h M g h t V ' J":-'"WK*Ml-: have taken placed "Obvioiisly- during the course of the declar&tioh^a period ofv. many months, there - were many. people, who, had many ideas which were etnplbyed in the Master Plan arri \ the : Z o n ^ ^ : questioned that' ifact V: that^ the - esjpert s : were called upon for the different uses : of property, different lot1 sizes, Ithijngs »f ~ r-:':r-t,-='r-—'-' ; �of that nature, however, I "don't believe ' -;, § that it: is appropriate tliat we have a one-sided ''?„ ;;;s : ±* view of what those'declarations were by one -*"", _J * member of the'Planning Board when undoubtedly there were public hearings on what was being accom- r :._ h_x 1 plished. I object to the line of testimony this witness is entering into. I refer.to . h ~' you "an4 boardi" the ordinance as adopted. ; v.•; ; : THE CHAIETO^ you : speak about the fecommendation which T you made while you were on the.Boardrrather•;• i '-'• \''-:;.•-- . than give~us what took place withi the 'other V::':/:'?'}/•:* •;;._'" membersiand the peopleV / A . : > '{•-. ---."'-;---"" ;-.": I must say my recommendation was unanimous. .1 will agree with the others.; It^was very definitely as to / ~Y'-- establish a nohe'C^l^wn^ ;:-;_:"'; : ;'^MR. miCHEIAj: :7 v;^:; V;; r I think yourj^' : >/ - : ^ l •<-•• ii*- direction to the witness could have3-- Mj;: li\:l ,S: ;i j v v , i^h^'is p a ^ ^ o f V n ^ o ^ .'., :, V; I am also objecting to"a^:testlnoriy-by^y^vhf " "i • VJ v '""individial^witnesses as to what they y > " ^ / " V-?\. v intended thisfbrdinance to mean as the i" ' - " - • ". - - -" l ~ ~i- * ' • - - - - . ' r- - - - - - -.„-:-*-* V - "' * ---_"- ~ ' - - -- ; -rk» - ^ " - - - _~ - - . ^ " . ' -v ;; ." ' ^ ^ ^ ;i.'--^~- r-"v 'C'T ^,--~ *""--"-:- �12 > r e s u l t of .'public' hearings. This 'orldiriahce was ; written and adopted and i t was clear what . .was "meantby "the: individuals-and what , . - Mr.; Moore~ said was : interpreted by unanimous ,; '?• 'consent by.the Planning Board or t h e Village . t*V»A /• ':• j'•'*•£.'Js.:l . - f'i . ! : '- -;•-'. ; i s j c e r t a i n l y not v relevent and i t i s hearsay. ; '-:l'-;••_',_' ; ^?MR. ; ' R O B I ^ ^ V / 1 1-here n o t ; a s t o opinion, we are t e s t i f y i n g t o f a c t s , the;" 5 r/= fact which took place £-_«••*' ---• I \^p^pf^li^yiaing"^feele^slatlve^ X:: I ;" history t o witness :*tWLs' adoption of Jthlsi ordinance;' we are n^vt^stifVing to" the i n t e n t or s opinion of the members except as you indicated, one - - ^ : ,- ,,----- member i s before ry^:':;;:.wl£t ."we'want ;.-td do i s ' e s t a b l i s h -—._ •;_:;; ••':;- ^ -i recpimiendations were made' from the 'facts />the; f a c t s -* i. : were "considered; the fact t\)kt r^cm^T^tlo^ t '.; . {Cwer^to J : . . . ,-';" : -;t L ^;^ Board i s e n t i t l e d t o hl^e them 7 s t a t e d b T : vy •'/;;•;"' .-s" "/"' ' ; •%-" v :?-.'. ..;_ ^ ^ J THE"CHAIRMAN:"-r:You'-seeV^^ me inte^rr^trybu'a mijTute,Tithe zcfiijig;"' • ;^- -•-:?----".. "•-:-:<: ••'" V ^: t i s very plato'inTwhat^they have cone;up•';>[• - \: ;• ; V with h e r e ^ t ^ ^ ? i s what we^a - 4 # a - ^ i . i i ^ n f t ^ f i f K2+j ? TESS"si&* Js3* rl^£- sgsS: iS*.- V'sia . - - ^ S S J S » T £•* jNi^iisiUiftSr3£^^ ifltaUE S ^ - ^ f e S r ^ ^ ^ ^ t e ^ f e ^ i r s l ^ e ^ ^ ^ ^ &#a5HbsJFi«^^^ES^^a^sE3giE»';6^g3.''» Jui^a^^aft^MigBiil , J r,--i«?' ^ ^ �;-<-. MR. MTTCHELL: Sorry, i t i s ; .customary where you have certain questions;;, raised' about services, i f I understand,; migjit ; include ar food service, tofexpldre what ' v '/ he was intending at the time when the word; . "service" was adopted". AllHhis;: \- J witness w i l l t e s t i f y about t h e r e , would ." be recommendations to change : the - zoning t o - a -;; r e s t r i c t e d ; automobile t r a f f i c j servicing c a r s , / that recommendation was"adopted, ail"he %y.. .Vj-had'to do in^two or^three^ iin\nutesi % tell -" .;.' -4fyou arid then c a l l for the next'witness. ; :/;•= "7% %\4 THE *CH/ffiMAN^ Alrlgrit;>I -will 7 ^ V- ... •"' entertain that!v- r '7 •'•"; -:y.-\.7^717^7 7>v/ :. yj ^ ;7x /;;:l;v.7_.:- . • MR; M3!rCH&iL: i i S i ^ - g p ^ ' t o . p l •' ;--• .•'agpee with your rulihg. youarid other merribers:of I w i l l 4 j u s t ask -r*-'••: -7 t&Bcs^:-^^j-;^-i'yi^}s---_ 7 consider the fact that. the reccraiKniatioris '• a r e ; 7 ] to be presented- i n l evidence r: 2 The ^ecoiiiiisTdatioris ^ t h a t were made t o Ithe Plann^jig BcSrd^dr 7^77/7^-7 i<4;i-k' ; J:^-^i#Jg£l^^ �by members of thePlanning Board, the members of the public. The only.; proper /,,-'way to submit that f o r m a t i o n to this Board is by the public record. There were of those hearings; I am sure these / .. ••'"'• men that have met" over the Courts : have kept records/of what they, discussed back in -196k.', . ,r //. / : l a m sure there are aiso" records".,.-" ': of the '.- public meetings where people : -,: • spoke''about thereconiiienda^ .think it/is positively thatV you : wantto /: / .look at the public record "instead of, a /: . " /;, ..-"•, •-.; : / /maiijerof 11 years -later^/;; x ••.." "•"-. W'V^;: v " - - /:i;/l :)/:fi--I^^""i^BSS0N:-;/ffi'records^are3 -. V^:-^ :////:/g° on£to the'twb or/thr^^^estions^i =/>^r; : : •; . •;/.-> " .'.-"/--; V' :: ; -^-^SI^m\ ^:V Didlthe1?- ^/ - consultant make r a recommendation^to/the' H a i l i n g Bo^rd - 7 regarding use for /this area'ori Broadway ? and Route 9 -irr"-:7: >7 the;village of \ North !ter^own?^;V/ } / ^ - ^ t; / / <vi; -/V > - _ '-- \i;/x-./v-vr~--A-V. ^ /i-fc^wt �M ; MITCHELL:" I would like '.'.'* ,to enter ab objection to that Your Honor. A; Yes. "•••-," MR. ROBINSON: I understand ; "'-•'you have a:. continuing objection/Mr. ,-"::;- -.;\•'"-..: "Mitchell. -'*, '•'".";' ..;:- .-" .-••/.. " " '-:^Q.^:;y^t"'was^the-rec6riIrerK3atiori? . . A.. The^ reconmendation was to be a separate ; zone, ; C-l for the "purpose of automotive and / related services; for the purpose of traffic and planning " of the Village'as.tothat use . of lar^-would.be ;; 'yX: for both residents and merchants. /. ^ ;' '_ ^':-; ^^;CH^imS:f :.•- /•"' ;; t'r::; ; H a Let me interrupt raLriute.s^I think we;are'going "overboard : ;->f . w here,: we "are talking about things of " r •-.• ;_•-.. : •;; ^ "" years' ago; wlich.wejshouidn' t be' interested in* We> should be" interested i n " w M t is:' -; ?-j ;V(• V in'this-.t^kV-s .ito'-;i&en^t'i^t.;tobk';y-. '* V--j :v ,- \- "::•• place"-;between;the';members;of that jbarticular :; ^ ^ v ^ ViT^^.^ifeaiii^i^^^ -iwwsr' -^ �16 •^- >';';is-thevtin]e and:place to^take it 3 : 1 • the book speaks for: it. "Let'us hear the /-. legal points of this particular trial." .v ; : •-. ;^- v ^ v R ( © I N S O N r Sir^before I can " y--\r ;argue,^before you'•"say themearring of .',.-'-*".: this, there, are certain facts 'which you need, one of the* facts there :was a unanimous recommendation to: change the zone to eliminate any use except the automobile \ •' use and ^ that = was accepted by-this Village' s duly appointed Planning Board-and :;; adopted by; the" Board of Trustees and individuals who actually passed : on : those \ '•, two adoptions are here thisr evening f •y-'l ; -^: x '< /'.to' testify. Trustee Ward is also here ? • -'.-. to testify. •/•• S ^ ^ - y ^ " :v r; • /f ^ ;;.";- ; '^\V; - '\ ^ .'you one. minute more, sir _.\: :; i;V "'~^\-!..>;• ;: V -' ,,: Board make reccflmendatiohs withi respect to )Brqadway Ito y: yj_;•:••-?_ ''A the Board of Trustees? ^k3s33Wk&''K^;>&£i£^^ -.'".";''.. '7:-\f-\^1\>:'-'-••-:/M'Vr::r-''--"-^'J^-,ys X •s-i-yr: �A. Yes, they did." "- : 1.:.^;.^ Q. T h e same recommendat ions? ;;: A. iThe same recommendations. ; :",*." \ '.'•;.;"'" . .- - M R > R 6 B K S O N : ; Thank you. ; (Cros s-Examination: of Mr. Kheeland Moore by Mr. Mitchell) are a property owner in the "Village? /./.' '-'-•-/--i7'\:- •-;.-/ Q. vWhat is your address?: --W-/-! '^"';V v v-~:-./"''* f-V .-";::. •- ; :';"A. 5 Howard Avenue. > -. - ;: ";:-v-^;.-;;:r ."•"'-..."'--.•-:-'•- V, Q. How would I get there'fromjthe"corner of B e e l a ^ ^ a ^ ; B r o ^ w a y ? •. -J - /-?iV^*^ ,: ,? ;. .: : • : A. - You: go' up Broadway to Phillipse Manor, 5 or 6 blocks you turn "left; A v ^; -:/--. i-^-^v, ":'•%•' ^ - ' :: . .;>: Q / About how far'>'; off Broaciway would -1 have^to ^ r go? A. Six blocks. -_-;*->:,' - .-/^l|Yi/.:fcv:.v^;v4^Srii:^^ '~^4gi'^a �v J t \ Qo Ihen or left? ;•••••• .'.., I would have to make a right ;.; v .; '.--.'•_;.'; A. A l e f t ; ! am rl^it near the corner, the second house in. , r Q. About 6 blocks up Broadway? ."--.. A. Right. . Q. .. You have owned that property from what period of time?).• "'-•"". ••; A.- 1956/ .-..-; v_"•;•';-..-.\7 777.7"'.' "' .-.-.."---'.. _ Q. You 1 lived there since then?' -". A.:. Before then I lived inNorth^Tarrytown. ../.--• Q. Mr. Moore, -youfeel" that theVreal property ^ ~ you ; own would be adversely affected iif-economic value in the" event' that Kentucky" Fried Chicken would be"builtv Sir? ',- -.;y\ '.. A. Yes. .":i~:" i-.-/~ . ,-.;;' •", V ; ^7 : '- •'7"'•_. '.----7-['.}•/•.. V; to you? Q. You think it would be "worthless money -"-:•• ---.;.. _ _< . • ; ";r ^: ^ 7 .;:. v -•-^'.~\:v A.:-' -Yesi"' on= the basis -that it: would" open" up"the " 7 ; zoning in this area for not "only Kentucky^Pried Chicken but for all other;typesy Burger Kirig^Carvelp Dunkiri11 DoiiutSi the whole"village willdeteriorate7~;I;don!t think-that;; 7- •-*?•* =2.- 3*»*ls& ~ 4 s M i : - - ; i ^ ^ 4 ^ ^ ^ i ^ ^ ^ �'is going to help "my property. Q. You haven't bought any, property ^except your house? A. You are right. Q. You haven11 sold any property in the Village? A. No, I have hot. Q. You mean to say that if my firm were . permitted tov build a Kentucky Fried Chicken tomorrow or the following' day } you wouldr put your house on the market to sell' it for less -thah!you would today?; .. A. I can't say that;---'-^ .-,C.\--; '.J. ,/>"~'\ ":;.\ m.'linnXXmJL: Moore. ,// ''•_ ; ; : ,: you; Mr.; •"/•-->"..;•." •-; ?• . f i/l4R.?RcfiDOTf:'" 7 : -..-.--.,,.' -:Thank \ "'"-._._ % nextxwitn^ssT ;<""': w i l l b e Mary\-Ward; 26 New B r o a d w a y , • ; North Tarrytbwn. —•; / , . (Mary Ward; 26 Broadway, North Tarrytown, a witness on behalf of the appellant ;was5 f i r s t "duly sworn by the'Chairman of ":':ly the Board:of Trustees and t e s t i f i e d as follows:) : /';\ . -.r- = * - - C . W ! ^ ,. _.JX" _£„ ^ _ ^ . , - - jMmmmMMs,MMm&^mmiM^Mm^&M^m&^^tim^i^m^m �V TEE CHAIRMAN:. You are testifying under ; oath a Mrs. Ward. .'».":•- : : >""' :; MRS. WARD: . Yes. ', . ,'' . .-,.-,-.; 1 MR. ROBiSsON: ; You are^aV ". "-•"".-,-> ..._•---- - ;••.•,/', residentfof North Tarrytown? • A. Y e s . '•- -;;-. : ^ : / ^" >\ .-'; ' Q. How long have you-lived'there? -V- A. Since 1921. . - :'•'/-'". ' " - ^ h ^ .'"•; J ^ '.'.'''••_--•-- Q. Was there a.time when you were elected ;\ .: by the voters ,^^ i- ''_ KbZ; -' - - -A" Yes. : •_..-. ' ••""= v^--V"/v,-,;•. \-. .•••;>•.''."-.-.: ^ ; .-/V.V" /.._ Q. And do you r e c a l l when that took place? ; ; - /'•..-•'•- A. 1962;--and then throu^i 1967^ ; : . Vp , ' v' '"';> .V: '-i^i- ".;> -"::-'.;!" '-A* -And JDU served as a member'; of the'Board' , of SIfiusfcees i n those years? " ; : V:"S V--;': : ;W ^/;1 ^ • : W ^ - ?; :-: r '^ A. Yes. , -r -.'".' ;/\.'. ;-;..J'-^. • "-'v_; -f'^r: 'v -; ;^^ _,^-''- :-/^:\':-:: ^' - y' -'•;;--. 7 -; Q. ^ And during that period of.tiiiie^was there, a recommendation made to-the; Boarcfto change the zoning (. "ordinance? - ^ : ^>; -'.;'- = ; . . ;, r ',.;- , ;:^.^f:- •; :'. \': A. ^Yes, as stated:Sefbre-by ^."Mbore. ''-:r<\ •'"' '-z"'-=?K^.v,: :;: J S ^:>Sf :: -v: > ^ ; £ ^ -r^^W^W^y.^ �21 •-_-"-; Q. :The Plaiining Board made a'recommendation? -'-• A.'''':' The Planning Boardrmade a "recomneridation. ; . Q.. Do^yoii remember.'what the recoiimeridatlon was with respect t o the changing of, the zoning ordinance : on Broadway and R)ute 9? A. .Yes, i t w a s ^definitely automotivef services. '..•*v .".-'_: -, ; MR. MTCHELL: Your Honor.'- \ i ' ODjectidn, ".1 .:_ •'•;•. """'•;;"••'.'' •'& •' •:""':"V'V- OHECHASSIAN::_Yl-'^"al^d"?coiimselor' t h a t we are getting i n t o the same rut-again; ; ^v' "' . ; ' ? iyfi3SB3&Nf: :t I w i n ^ t M r a w i t , •• v Your Honor. : . ? : . . ^ -'-.\.--.. SV->V; Q. Do you r e c a l l the/Board of -Trustees f ;? r -. adopting a recommendation from th^lPlanrdrig Board?; -•'"•_'v-^"offi'OTASMAN getting off the beaten path again;%we : are asking questions -thatpeople already - ..: know. .:.;_-•'""".-..-.'.._.""• . ^ ^' ; . ; : ;/-f>- I©; ROBIl^ON:; Asrfarlis we do have ; the facts for you ini the adoption.=^;''";•_:• .: ,^'GHAIiSwN:^Biat we all know. = : �Q. When this was adopted,^did you live where you live now? '.- A. Yes, Idid. / . " Q. Would you describe that in relation to both Route 9 and the corner of Beekman? ^ A. About 1/2 block from, the corner. : MR. ROBINSON: Thank you very much.y You may inquire. ;: (Cross-Exarainatioh of Mrs. Mary Ward byMr•;;;-_Mitchell);••."' : ; 4: MR. MTlSiELL: : Q^yMrsy Ward, :,} have you lived at this' locationIsijice 1921?;\ :-:: L •:: y A. •"•'Since'a935v^y : :1 y.;>^''^j:, ^W^ yy; Q. Have you been a resident ^ of .the Village since 1 9 2 1 ? ~. -~ A. f Q. " ' Yes. : - : .'"-.:'] -".-.'^^/\"'>^'l/^y; -:' '•'•^'•>yy"•'•-.-- '.•• ^/:^y y., Are'fyju familiar howtheslafea on Route ' 9 lr •[.'.• T s t a r t i n g a t the corner of Beekmari Avenue and gpliigriorthy---;-• have been inproved'since 1921? -~-\'-~:_-:''-•'•• :" vy-'y'-y-^v'Xy "-'"-" A. ,Well, improved? :-•> ..;_-- >• y \ . : . ' r ; :i:-S_'.y:y'" '> �23 # MR. imCHELL: ;-'"-•.'.-.•- : : '".--.-. A. j-What p a r t ? " ~ ?: I / ,;Y;".'.. f-[;\ .;••_•• Yes. : ^(7V. M^MITCHEtL; Q. S t a r t i n g •: a t t h e corner of Beelonari Avenue and 'Route 9^ what was t h e r e ? , . r7v i -. :; ; ^ V-l ; _. . A." Well, t h e r e was an o l d " b u i l d i n g t h e r e . l7 Q« You r e c a l l t h e ' u s e on ; t h e : northwest corner, right? A;- Y e s . ':'.';'••;•••' Q. -/..-J A. .(•/"-;;'•'-":•'• .:v ; Q. ."-,. --'i~V-'? U';-.,: m . : MCTCHRTJ,: ^ Yes. T r a t w a s Leviiies? '••/"'.; r . Definitely. > . ;? V; >;f :: ; : \ ^ : r 7 / . :- i:::.-^ "- : / .^;^M ^;>;> ;t-;C :r ^V v^ ;" -,"•'.- V ; -"> ^ Q. . How did t h e u s e change? >:^: _ A; ;; They, sold "ice-cream cc«es t h e r e . / - . . After t h a t i t s use "changed? V- A. ^ 5 ?;/ :•----/•-.' ,/-: V£; ~ M[ - , ~ , . f e \ •: "'^ ->;-W. Q. _.. . / • =^ What was t h e o l c V t t h i i d ^ Yes. . , '-:..." W ' - ^ . " ' v A. %i^ y'--"':'-; ••--'' z/ A..Back in1921? ;; : ' . - , • ; ' '•'[•'. . ; --• ^< 5" ;? r' - - - ;V fri;:^'^ Weiiy a t some time i t ; m s a t a i i o r ? s h o p . : �2k • MR. ROBINSON: I must raise the same objection that he raised; onlyit seems : to me it is wholly irrelevant^as to the %r"questionof what tHe?'-'zorixrig ordinance means. *.'?• '} / —; >=fWe ; were' providing the facts of adoption- '/"..-. what was considered, v^t'haippened'in 1921/ arid'he -:. jv:"'; \. pf ' = ''• . =-M ':'y should call his own witness, -it is not responsive *•••• i > tO t h a t . .'/.//_. ;M , "-':\..' .... •".••-. . '. - ". ':~*-\. :"/; -.-;.;-'• ''. " •-™;CHASlAN:''. i: a g r e e ^ t o h l ^ ^ s i r / ;; ' ; - v \ ^ V ' " ™ ^ ' ' y ° u change your, method of Questioning," s i r ? '""". : / : >^;/: '"•='•,.- : '-VRy MTra&SLL: Q.'l>oYoavecaii^;- what was most recently conducted a t t h e northwest corner "of ' Route 9 and^Beekman Avenue,'what kLnd r 6f business was.,:y .\ •there? . ..;/ \--r-'./'y '.-"'-"; - - .>"'- . ':'•'•' ;••/--:• - l v : .'.; : /"^Mi V;" •;,-.". A. • •• was t h e r e . "".;-'•' r-V';; ':i'':'- I have often wondered [what kind ; of business •. : • ."'•','-•" - ->/ =-.:-..-/-:;*-';''.'"•'?%" "V.-. .Jv^OV; "-;,':-"•--'" Q. What was i t extensively?.. / • -A. You couldn't • prove anything '-'-•} \ -'•:': -K- <• ^=7^ := : ^ ^ . : : :. b^we\/^:.:^j^: \Wi.;m^ l i n e of testimony ; t o ^ e l f t i o f e i s * i f r ^ what the zoning ordinance means.;-y.-f j£'--;'.-;~->f/'"-?^--'i'-':^l;|3u' . • • / , ^ ; . - v i > - 'k-\J ]• -> :"V- i f '"'•-'''"- �25 r '~5 =.--:-."-"-; MR.'MITCHELL: I v/ithdraw. . '-- ; '"'/' ,,.-x ./\ v---,* v^Yv these questions, 1 have no further questions "•/•'^ ^sV^war^..Y;Yv^. ,:;- ; ; r •r - ; , - willybtrplease; call your "next witness?' (Seymour C a s h i n g 6 Terryhlll ? Road, Tarrytown, New Y o r k ) X (Seymour Cashiii';- a witness • on behalf of the 1 appellant was first "duly sworn, by the ''Chairaah"of,.the"_Bosapd^of •" ? Trustees and testified as follows:), :;;:": -\ % : :,: (Direct Examination'of - Seymour'Cashiii^ byMr." Robinson) .W:\:v::-::'"'•-" " ; ^:^/tm.ROBINOT : > : '-; '•'••'-,;,•;"=;. ; ;Mr.; Cashih as anrexpert witness;: We have the ,::-::. ' vehicle report ^of the.9 individual- day, ; I svY . will Iproceed to"give 'a^copy,:to;Mr; Mitchell'~:; -.-V*-'- v •: :\_ v ;Vartfj$*TiM . ;...^..-""'": •"• :•.': "f: • Q.' v- Sir, have r you seen -this 'do&pent before?:;]K .-_.'-Al..';.Tyam afrald,iSir 3 I did. T^yf /fo^^j^f^^:v^%£^^^ / Y J y \ ^ : • '':\.'-; v - , ;r.^s- -f - �:• Q. Is this your biological "statement of v- four pages? . --•'"''-" = ; --/.-"-" ": ' •; 4-;'-= -1 A. Yes. "';:•;• • - . . - . ,• Q. If I ask you to restate all the* facts I of; this biological'statement would'you testify as set forth here? "': : • A. Yes. :: : / t ":• - Q. Sir, nny I ask this be in the record as " a'qualification backgroundias an expert, what is" your . professional training? -- \ A. Training consists of Ti^s^rtation'(^mmssioner. Q. As a Tna^^rtation^Ccranissioner,:what other things have1 you studied? ;: v '• ;-. • A. • Public transportation both highway transportation arid traffic. : : ;; "r. ..'-•-"• -"%-•*.> '"."-^.-" '"/ ^ Q. You have studied the^pattern;of traffic flow, .- •: have you?;. A. ' ., - . - ; . , ( That i s c o r r e c t s . : W ;..•.,'."- "•."•->:.-.. : _-'"-' i°: / ^ Q. Are y?u familiar' with ; Route'9 i n t t e Village - ^ ^ of North Tarrytown? .-' - A •'-.'•';'\-:f.-'-\r. ' ' j O " ^ . » : Yesi-I amT ; .-. -. ';:U":r../.--,•"•" ;\ Sy: : ""O" -- ^C: ^ n :' '; A: .^ �Q. And are you familiar with the permit that was granted by the Building inspector of North Tarrytowri for a Kentucky Fried Chicken Restaurant on that corner? \4 -=? -?. A. Yes, as it has been described in the • Tarrytown Daily News. f^ r/ / ^ . micmilj: I object to any furtherr quest ions, Your HOnor,. I don^want'to point but some of the inaccuracies of the press, on occasions •-':•- it is hardly "a" basis for an expert to .;. render an opinion frOT a newspaper article. ,. m^RGiSsQN: K we will •; -'./ ; withdrawthequestion aid I will direct ,;_.v . .: -„ -."•: the attention" to the "appeal that ''•::. -.;- v.v was filed withrthis Court with the plans - filed with the building injector. .. > ; Q. Will • you examine these plans and tell me " when you are finished looking at them?'.... (Witness examines the plans); r^. /^----.^ss^s^im;^ ^_.™*--^--l-^ C V^^^^^ ; ; V ., - - A; :r#; ": ' VV'; �; '"."""'• •'-'•* "" ' A. I "am satisfied/I; , Q. What kind of restaurant is set forth in those plans? '-"".'••-•_.--v . . ; • - . - v 'A. It : is' conmonly — .': : ^ .> .- y[ MR. MITCHELL: Objection. I '•---;:,. think the4 plans speak for itself. It /•':.' ' /.. •;-•.'•• ' I , ' doesn't require any expertopinion--_... or does it need the "witness to read from *. 'i •* •'•"•-."": C:;-\ r ; the plans. :-.";i •:. Q. I have asked the witness to read (from the plans. In the course of your expert work a.s \ a ""• person studying transportation/ are youfainiliar withl'-/-'- Y' the buildings and (the traffic demands that those buildings on adjacent highways and depending "on what7*they;are?:; ;: '- A. - Yes. ;' :- - : ' -^\.; ^r; ^-f. ; " - :^^^. . YQ._'.:-Are you familiar with tlie s^tethi^rcalled "grass root : establislxnents?f r Y-ri-••'•- '---"•:-•'/• Y : Y > ,: : Chairman^* IYIo^^ -V ; / :- has with the" M Y •'-;"".;: -T : ordinance number 1, number 23 I dbn!t seeY ^^sv. �29 what characterization is being made of the : building that is being proposed here. ;._;._'- . •; ; Somebody might''; call it fast foods ,v somebody might call it a slow food, depending on< v. : , : :% . t h e service, I don't know whether this witness^ is qualified to answer what it is, fast food restaurant, r ; or in' any/ event;' it has nothing to do with what -. :•::':." .'•'' it says in• here. ;£};::. _ •'"-.."-..- .'-•-• '•-•- ^.: : RBBfSQN:-.:'I w i n be: glad; ^-:r . ;. ,..; to explain:First of all,' fast foods has a term • .!"in villagesand the:'county I^ve adopted /-"'. an-ordinance of fast foods., ; : ['•.'• '"-••-"-.; THE > ^--:'.-- :, : ^; "-. C H A S ^ V we know ail*of these' things have/taken place.\•* I-'. } .r: : /don'twant to s^'t^s "m^ti^'cazTi^'oh i^il; J; s. / -• /two or three in the"morning. * Let us-1 come up }•.-y.">>•-:-" with something eonrete. -j-'-V; i'r- |-.^ . "'•;••" .s'• "-: "'"'•* -' -;~ ^;/, ::v : v ;_*;_;.. ^ ^MRyjffii^ffiN:¥& : . \ I wfil^omBy?'.'-'""^:-' ; S ^ - straight "to the;point. What /we are trying to£doJis to :^,. / , : •-vvti-/'^; f establish a?traffic p a t t e r h ^ b u t a s this!permit would;allow >/ opposed to ttie;parking I6t~;that is^there now.^^. ;; i ;=:y ;; �30 .THE CHAIRMAN:;I think we already have '. that. here How : from the Court i '••'•m^MTRMJ.'; If there is to \ be any questions as to what the traffic is; I don't see what that has to "do with the ; zoning ordinance. When we applied . / --' to the Oburt to have this hearing restrained, * the Court indicated that'it* was the - 3" > , ^ .'?jdb~ of this body.in'".the"first iristence >: ;.: - r. .to interpret the zoning oidinance,',;•-'. : •--' /-,',/•._ ? • • • • ' • \ ' - — ' •':••'• that is a l T the -Court decided. Iliey > said tfisBoard was -to decide what the :••-•' r,i zoning said. t'af _ %en T tne;appeilaht any; complaint | we" shall ; ^ and'arrange . with the" Judge.- It has nothing to, ;f"r ;> ;; ;"; •tdo with^trafficV Assuming for :argiiientssake^ which I will'deny3 assuming this business ; brings miles of cars;into the r " ^ >:i7; - locatiori^if it : is permitted here,' ;; y % v ; it is permitted^-'okay.:. ; :".\ '.';';"-- ." \. ;:Al ' ?i- ; . ir SM CHAIRMAN: That is my feeliSig.j;; V ;? I think we'ou^it to end that line of ^-.-j ^ •••/>y_ questioning,- please, c \ . -.; i\^; =: V ; VT;; ; �MR.l ROBINSON: Q. Sir, if I make a statement for the" record, an expert's opinion . as to wiat is allowed* under the' zoning ordinance '.i as to the difference, how nweh trafficYk restaurant, ., a fast food establishment generates as opposed to a parking or a tire sh^op,:is relevant to'the safety and other specifications that the-'plahhing board are trying to protect when - they adopted' this. It : is •. . - our • position,\that there are good reasons,;perfectly good "safety reasons why' the Planning Board and Board. ; of, Trustees chose to - eliminate * all" of it''"so there ; wouldn't be a completion in these two kinds of establishments. "':-; '•.:;'-V .... Q. Would an automotive use of • this property" as you heard the witnesses testify,"_• a . vv. tire shopX"a gas-station and etc. andfproduce a less traffic'than ^-Kentucky M '-.'•''• .%•y 4 /' /[_ •-;- "7 r .-:••:"•';j. judge. ?Now you want to-y> ^vyy ".y- ,,y ./-•...- ;"••.•"...''. put another gas station '-. there, I think :K^ y ""; " .-?''"'• ;"''"'" -•-..•• that isv: but of order/ "We k n ^ y B > : Y; yv: -V.B y^M^/,^ak-^-p&&#?A^.r ^ ^ i ^ M ^ & ^^^^Mi^A^mo^mM^^^^^y^^^MM. �32 . that there are gas stations and . garaged all ; along that-road, that if ...''.;:."'" you try tofget thrqu^i there any r other time you get • run over, so put another garage there if you think that r is-right. : -/"'--"' M.^ROBINSON:-That is why"we;.*\ ; > . ;;- '"";..' don T t heed'this fast food establishment : there." .":"-;.'-'". ; , - ; :.:':; : . . MR: CHAIRMAN: 'Suppose people who . '/ •".: v { ^walk upIthe"village, -that doh f t drive,-what i do you say to that?: V;--"^>:-::> :v:\:.J;isi "-" •-;";?£•_:• •>; ; ;^;. .-,'"'../ ,r:-/ : . M.jRQEG^^ ; -"_'."•' :he is the expert,?I am^ the - lawyer. / . ...-/•- Q« What-.is the pedestrians difficulty oh this\.:: corner right now, as ybuYsee it ,i as an expert in""TrafficV;V> vTransportation? V-. •-'•-'.-'•/'^V , ' • ^-.|5;V; ^ : ;/.^; -,.-• MR.^METOHFTJt":'-": Beforelthe^witness/ ^;- •r is permitted to answer the 'g^estiongiviiig ? ""•:\ ;X his opinionfoh'la-question based ori his-V? ^ 4..:.-" :.V *••" - expert opinion, - may 11 : inquire whatvwe ;%v t -; i -:. uv-? ^i^,.i.:^j^^^^ �I. 33' call a voir dire3 to inquire .M. a little further on the witness's qualifications to answer the question. ^:; ;/J: I^.;HBINSCM;;; Mr/Mitchell will' 1 , ] ; have: a chance'. to ask questions. ,/ X X ^ M R . MITCHELL: All I wainXto do ,.-'." ~ "is ask;—--%,-. - :' -•'•" % • -;..- v.XXX^^-CM^ '•'-"--• <- 'a^-. that arid~getV6n witlrsomething else. v. v\ . '*"-•' Q.y whata^^ 'brrthis"corner, sir? . v .;. . " :; : ;Xv"''..•-' :'£V /-';;/ ./" /A. rlt'really is a hazard with the sole exception of those coming; from areas \ to the north and west: of.. that corner/ and anybody who"; has to cross that? intersection to gain access. to" that property is - inr danger, basically ;' \'Wbecause there is a3jipst continuous traffic, one car •-'.". .-^ after another plus iiMted-visability. .;". ,•;;•*-- \:\*.;X?Vi X ".-,"'' X X X ; f*^ '..V yj, lyiR./RHINSQN: ;• For tferecoil; ; - X / : .-'•".:"-': . :'-"V^_jSl would!like"to "continue: ^th^hist? V;' / :"^ X:-:'Vv-^X>^ •;:-,--.-:- ?> ':/:I would like to turn itvover,t:6 Mr. Mitchell. •Vw--?.^.- •k "^J^ife,..****« ^ * ^ J W ^ « ^ ^ # t % r ^ ^ ^ 5r-»*iL'j£S �(Cross-Examination of Seymour Yashin by" MP';-Mitchell);" -•.;"- MR. MrrCHELL: Q. v As a Transportation Commissioner, did you study engineering or building? A. I nave taken some engineering ""•• courses. - "- -.-.•:-" . - _: Q. You live in Tarrytown, do you? --..--:. /•/-" -':>. • A;- Correct." ;, .___'•-- ; - -' : : v",-•'-.*..;. ;.V.-'"\_ Q. Are you familiar'with Route 9? ,.."-..". A ; i sure am.;/ v* ;; - ; v;,- " . ' ; ' Q. : what is the'traffic'count at the corner of Route 9 and Beekman"Avenue?\/ '•'-:'-.' ~:'.:-\ - A. "I can't .'give you the^exact n u ^ e r , you .. can take it on/a daily or hourly basis. 1 *'•• /; Q. viMr. Cashing isn't it.true?that the State " of New York conducts "traffic counts of the "public highway? "(No answer) % -"-,"/- :: ^ ;^- ..r^ r ; ;;, -i - /; v_- Q.i Wouldn't ybii think t h a t a s an expert who i s "going t o give any information to'.the faraffic - . " ;; : •? conditions, you'du^it t o firid' out what the traffic;count = i s ? i--.-.i-^-2g>.-A*-. - ; -»•'* jri r*ia ~~?~~-i --rf. iVr. i^;i\^*>.---X::-- ,%*-. --i^&y^^fci&i^tife^ *» �35 A. T made a visual Inspection. . "V . .;"',".'"'";-!. to this. -'-:•* Q. : , By..whom are^you employed, Sir? A. t Frankly; I don't'tliihk i t is^ -_'|--.J•'</•• I am a consultant.: V" Q. :? Generally, you are : with a --. consultant ; firm? . . A . v .;---V'. : v J:/" / .''-'"'-:. make that visualfcount s i r ? . . Yesterday., .. ;•-/'"• - ; ' ";^ Q. vWhat^time 3f day?' . > . ; ." ; V ^ , - ;;/'._: '•'.;. .• "W -.r-" ^";Vi'-- A. V I would say it\was between 5 and;6/ and a ^ i h - t h i s morning approximately 8 o'clock. ; ^; " ^. "Tv; A.^ For approximately 20"minutes. ' ' V -.-;-; ~Q.V/Ardryou"are p r e j ^ e ^ ^ o r e M e r opinions ' as ? t o t h e t r a f f i c a t t h a t location:on 5 a seven' day week ; >" b a s i s , 24 hoursa'"day/-based on^ thos observations? , -'*' ;. / "•"" T A. vYe's.:^ ; ? ^ y.-1 ; : >r . :- "-^V;^ : >;\V'^%-•- v- ' ' ;.- -,':-^H:V'-^'> ^-;-^ - v -.;"•" /• : v m ^ i i n S m V >v&^rI;questions.M7 ? -!M'^Wy -"/;v!-K:^""^;^> - ^ ^ 7 ' ^ ' - ' / ' - . ^ = : ! ' " ~:\VVV - ---* ' - • • V ' r . ' - . - V (Re-direct examination of ^ y m x j r C a s h i i i b y Mr. itobinson) • - - ^ - *•-$_ >Mi^:lr.U^igl �"/•::\m. ROBINSON: Q. Will you explain oh what basis you made your traffic evaluation? :\ ' - '^mSmnxyHELL: IobJectto C y ' -'-'_-•; the operation of the witness1s mind. .• We are getting into police work. THE CHAIRMAN: You say; . • .we are'getting into police work. If there . : is traffic there,: it: is "up to the -: -.- • . copsito take care of it. Let's dispense • r --V-?:--.-"' •'•";• :' "' " •; with all "that. \ .,; •.'-'''7-(J'-'' \ W M R . ROBINSON: • We are finished-;. '_[ ";- :; ; ; with this witness,>= sir.'"''.'•'•r-\::[: : - , :.; ,: ^ %; //MR. R Q ] ^ ^ ..;•--• "^'/•:'-:-;r-j4.'•'" the principal''"case]>-l would"like to state .-"'•"* ' that it is the positiorrbf the -y appellant here,-thererare'no new uses .; :: and there has.been ah-adoption of this - .:•^^? "zoning 6r<phahce"ih;thVC-l zone. ; ; r y W ^ e ; •are a ^ - } ;\ f. V to automobile j'and the Kentucky Fried , '-:; V ":,, CMqkeh is not a legpl use'.in this zone. r;f;; ;-r:\.i �It might be a legal use elsewhere. • It mi^it be a le^il use if you came r: down-from Beekman Avenue Farther toward the' school. It Is not a legal use on Broadway. I request this Board to overrule the building inspector and have the permit "revoked, /What is proper, Mr. Chairman, and what it is now being used for but not a restaurant and we request that ; the permit* be'revoked. Thank you, sir. . -: . -"; MRM ffincfii: That your: total case? \ \ •-"- MR. ROBINSON:/' We' reserve" any^ } / _'. fi rebuttal,'thatis our,caseVinvcMef*.';^:; ' befbre_,ire"''^t""'int6~6urVT!idt^s^Wi^tte^ is) a column I would like to point - out : •:._x : . \; to the board ;-• First of all, -1. would like you to take a look at --.-. -;>.!/--;-:•;""-'','; : Article II7 Section (62-4r./v^ , V - S & . ;: THE CHAIRMAN:; W h ^ ^ p a ^ a r e ^ ' o n ? . : . T^^-^^kr^NJJS^k1*^^^^ jA �3 8 •'•-. MR. MITCHELL: Page 62 arid 60 sir. It is just the first sentence *"*-.. - * < of that paragraph where it says "that the appeals1to the Board of Appeals may be taken to the": persons : aggrieved by the Building Inspector." I respectfully request that the appeal be dismissed because the alleged y- -,--; appellant:failed~completely to-establish a prima facia casea that they agreed to grant this permit. The law is quite clear that it is not enough that .'. , a person be a property-owner of, the . municipality, or have any interest ; of-- the general welfare of the community, in order to appeal from the Building Inspector. In order to appeal the Court h^s consistently held that .: somebody; has to have some sortrof £ .-' interest. ? There just can 1 1 - be people ' who don't have any Interest in the ' :^z~?r^: '?<:-3£pm <-ii -i.-'M-Zi? —-^yOtaXr -4^-^Li-^^Z-^-'"-'^?&~^-?.--^ •ifii's- '-B^ir^^^t^£^^sxiftX&~fAA7rCffl-..:^•—Js^^m, 'ii^MMkSMtM§mfM^i^^^^Mi S2 �39 M : 4 proceeding^ that interest has generally been defined to be some sort , _ - of academic •'interest / It is incumbent upon '.'j_ '.%'" the appellant to establish to :the satisfaction of tliis Board that : they are aggrieved by some "V adverse academic factors by the decision7 ;; of the'Building Inspector. Before they - are permittedto appeal I feel -that: V --. , ; - ,_ regardless of Mr. Moore'sfeelings, ; • i ;\ - -X that his property might be worth less V. ••--•."'in "value .'"..I don't .think the faults fall within the' realm of establishing proof that; - v,.; they have been hurt by the decision of the building inspector. In view of the Jz 4 '•'"..- . v":f ^:J^ • --' facts^ -they havenTt established. they ."- -. have adversely affected;the appeal. ; ; ;^V • The"* appeal should be dismis sed p that is the first J \'. legal'point.•>} : ~ = " i; ^4 :.v:|: : ,."••'':-•-;' ~: }• '-AWH v j ^ m . ROBINSON^ Y ^ a :' " .•:--?, -:- 4 C-U; OHE CHAIRMAN:' Please5 answer when he getsIthrough please." •;f;--*'e7t.£ i-„". ,-.*-> Ji . T K m^, *UfeJ;=liS^:i*i?ajM2*^^ �MR. MITCHELL: The second point I would like to make clear, Mr.: Chairman, is the question which the Court has referred to this; Board. In the first < : instance, again it is that I feel that you gentlemen do not have the jurisdiction at* this time to overturn the "decision of the Building Inspector, that is not to denigrate your statutory authority,: because '• it "is an outstanding Court order. My clients originally applied for;a building permit \±n[June or July, 1972*Trr and the' BoardL of rIrustees directed the building"inspector not ^to'issue the y permit. / Let;us = get the"history on the ; record[f*. They directed the buildir^g inspector not to issue the permit.; f We brou^it '•-) a proceeding t* the huildihg inspector ,^343. to issue] the permit-after the time / , .we were in Court,: we set our plans in'•:.' . order. We complied with the zoning ;,: _ ; �ordinance a everything we did was completely right 'and proper. c5 There is no reason for the building inspector not " to issue the building permit to us. The judge tells "the"building inspector what to issue. The'village contested ... our application at the time, The'village contested our application and "had the opportunity to contest-our cefctificatioh ; with that we comply "with the "zoning ;. ordinance \ they can'. t; comply to; issue the* building permit^ " -- The = village agreed, we complied with the village ordinance :. and'the'judge said "to the' building -: inspector ^"is'sue^that bldlxliiig perroit." •:, When we went1 tor court and attempted to \ prevent this hearing we said to the ; judge exactly • V ".'": • what: we said -'now." Judge Walsh indicated - "it ! s up to you "gentlemen; "_-;"'-.M the /- first instance3 whether Judge Trdahor in "":; feiwfc^XJ:^ ---: «w i-^ij&^c i-l^k^Uiiss^^^^l^^'^^s^^^i^^^k^Si^^g^^. " �A2 his order precludes you from that in determining if the. building inspector was wrong, it is up to you to say. In the first-instance, as to decide what >Judge Trainor said'that you" stop from coming to a different conclusion. This ; is an'issue for you to decide. I submit"to : you atr- this point! by virtue of Judge ^.Irainbr^Touts^ to be stopped fran decidihig are ] yr . \ that we are 1 not in conflict with the :koning boardi • There is another • item, Mr•' Chairman, I don't \know if. it has been presented / . --. to /you "as part", of : the settlement with ~ •the litigation' that : We = had "with the ^village. -I We'entered into a stipulation settling :•; . 1 ^ actionTwi^^the; v i l l a g e . . I w o u l d ^ ^ : ; , i l i k e "to read - t o you the s t i p u l a t i o n which ; ',': was put on the record which V^as signed ,by Mr ^ Whalen' and "me, whereas there %t-. , V~'~. i s "an: action pendijig i n ~the= Supreme Court ^*:<:. m^jh^m^M^;^ �of the State of New York under the caption in part of the conversation with the petitioner where judgment of the ; Article pursuant "to the Village of NQrtti _ larrytowrT and 'County of Westchester, respondent and wherein the respective parties have attenpted to'resolve the issues involved. It is agreed "that the/-; , respondent' meeting with? the village will propose a resolution. to the Appelate (., ; Divisionof the"Second Judicial'Depaii^ment. ; The-petitioner agrees to it. /What '••? we! redo is as•follows: to constitute the :/ plans re the exterior: of 'the/building and / ; presented it to the' Hudson River Valley . . Conmission:at -a''public hearing held>j-v -:... on October 21J : 197^ 3 the place in/stead of this original building application. It isfceiiig'uriderstb^that "such change -J' y\ will not be a changed5and amende^ application. i-A-f^ ••&& §**£:-*&. ^MmM&dMMi^ k,A. ***rM ^:Mi^M^^id^i:iSM-&^M^iS^^^^^^ •£g£&^gSi&^B2S%t&sjs&£&3S& �w It is being understood that such change will" not be a. changed and amended, application. Now," in compliance with ...-'.. that5 my clients permitted to Mr. Jelnick, 'the building inspector, new elevation -showing the exterior of the building and we have complied with that portion of"our agreement with the village. (2) Prohibit parking or vehicles of, employees. --1 Create . " in North Tarrytown5, in the parking ) area, as proposed1 for "patrons of. such premises." We baveragreed that any v; ...!.,;-*."• employees will be prbliibited'from" parking in' the: area tliat*- is••being" reserved for \. patrons. • (3) .; To'arrange the parking; -~ , spaces in such' a mnner with Chapter 62 of the1 Zoning Ordinance so that -vehicles :'mayexit^ without-backiiig onto a-public street, My.client has ^reviewed with IV • Mr.v Jelnick about 7vehicles so that cars <. &i&-.-}#U~^'tM-;~A£^&^±-'^?^ �% 7 will not back onto to Beelanan Avenue but 7 will come out forward thus reducing -any probability of any traffic. (4) To cooperate with :the necessary officials of the buildings \?<y_ to the extending of the island on ;S .•'-;. \ Beekraan'Avenue and Broadway to the westerly side from entering the premises. "'.';- •' ' :• r/R. MTTC^^ >;.-\> agreed, V- we will cooperate: witliy the pillage in y : - , -4~/ • ^ y/-y-J -extending the" island, ysb cars /can' swing" around = :j f : l, ancllcut across. Sw -\-.-' ":"•: •; MR/ : S3EmsS: y'Firie7 'i ;;-• V |a-i.r^- : l = - ' ";;..----*"• l i s ^subject "toithe ^issuanceTof:= a^permit :i-;: p ^ f . ^ " S ^ v v i l l a g e 6f;Nortti T a i ^ o W : My y Clients"' have c c i i p l ^ vof,th^^a^eement^bf the7village and _.; ;:-7 x\v - 7 ^ | 7 ;"' /-.p.'- :r 7theT v i l l ^ t h ^ r c ^ l i e d : b y issuing•- :y ^y.y,^>^. ^a'penMi^rth&^^ ;; n w : - M J; ^r% v ;7 C 7 t o the" zbrrLrig1 ordinaiice^i think I w o ^ Uloe 7 �46 to call the first .witness, the Building ; Inspector, Mr. Loger. /:*-•"•''"'"" (I^orffid-Loger, 67'Sleepy Hollow Road, North.Tarrytown, a witness on behalf .of the respondent was first duly sworn by the Chatanari of the Board and testified as follows:) : '••'-';':'•- .. ./ V " ; \" ^ ''• "-"-•'.' (Direct Examination of Leona3^:Log^':by'Mi7.VMtcnell): V - . x V:••''•-••'-- ^^ySjCmiL: Q. • M r . Loger, ^were'you'the Building Inspector "in the Village-.' of North Tarrytown "andiri June and July, '•-197*1? /.,", \ - '\ ' / i .' '\'-'':\ ":.;' . " *;':; &' Yes^ " r .' -; - ^ ^ t-i: •''•-.'•>:• : > " : ; > ; ^ h^ Q^xwhenV^ere you;irdti^ly7a^p6inted? ,v' _ •'•"' "'--._:.V" -"j'••"... "••: Q. Did you continually operate as / . ; s Building'Inspector? ^ ^; '-X"'1''•••-".-¥'- ;:7J/"^;' . iuVYes^^ V.;-;-V-". •'::i-^--i:- V ":; 4 • • - Q - D i d ? t i i e r e * come a. ,tpile when t^iere w a s ; submitted : before you for rappiroval*- planlP forl Kentucky • :— s*r •4*>>'""*-;t''-^^^^ ;, �117 Fried Chicken? v.-;- ;.='' ; - A..^Yes.:= "; ;:' :. -•'._. ... / .iQ. -'Do you recallrwhen those plains were submitted? V >;.;,;-^ "; : r '.y : A., The' first plans: were submitted .to me on an informal basis in June-197*1 • ;• A i• '-• Q.. - D i d : those plans — can you tell us what those plans demoristrated? • --. . ;. a curb cut on Route 9 > I believe. it was -1*1 parking' spaces.. The building was supposed{to be up near the - :, front -of the: lot or on' Broadway, = and basically/ I - : understand those are thesame plans that.have been approved. •"-. .;~y'\. \ \tz • j - i -"^ ri.--:.:!-y? - V .'-'"• ^i-;:!.- -.;;/ .1^-.''::--- .'.':' . V -'.'"-.-- ". -•-H.-J-'--^..: j.,i;-i.-V. Q. -Subsequent.to thata<did;you3have conferences about the Kentucky Pried Ghieken in.,'~~-[ North Tarrytown? A. v WellV the plans were "submitted, to me. ;; I W* told,'' I believe i t ; was the'*coMractor for, Kentucky ! fj.-..*j:'-- ---sr-- re---jr.-:-. V/--&^.^*i~?-S:.V--.;-<- Fried Chicken'that they were ; n o t \ t o t a l l y acceptable^" F i r s t of a l l , the Department of Orai^oijtation'vpuld; : »- -.•««- -* r/^*fc£-i34*: -»^^-*S43i&iV^aif:iK4-fc;.»T:£sii *Omfm' s«^v^^sa3£3^j^'^^S&VjeS^;*^S^^ji63S^sS^3 �. -'48 not grant a curb cut.: AThere:was contemplated; a widening "\ of:Broadway at that-particular point, there w a s -, also a motion'on the books for a court action for the realigning for 448,v s b : rethought it would be J ^ /':';• for his best interest t o set the building back-where I understand it is j^- its present location^ friow,: in; v . v the event that'•' the 'road'should'be widened an?i realigning s h o u l d - t a k e p l a c e V .v= v ; ^ ^ ^ . - : ,'-';,-.,:>:':A' ; ""''/•?• '>>::"": ^ '' Q^.* Didryou'= have additional:conference'with the representative of /Kentucky Fried; Chicken in - ::. , ."'"• % North T a r r ^ o w n , ° Inc.3; Sir., which 'resulted ffinally : /I...''. in the submission/to you;;of plans which'youJfouund ;-\\-:.-_.; to be acceptable to the' building 'code?V^AAsA'£V'"-V." ;-'.; " -/ i J,; to object to under ttie;Rules of •;.yv ; : "•-•i-:>,- ;• Evidence there is-one buildlJng j- - ":;;-;••- :>.--'. permit",-;that areVchanged"ori legal _--"..:>-v '.''-*"-,".. ^Q. "grounds.' It i s ; h o t % i h o p ^ 7 - ^ - r { It1 is up]to "the road^or further back, how long that -took we can/go ihto>it^Jt;is notCrellvant ,'i to tine question we have-on appeal. -. ^ : : :**&. i- •• - ^--< ^>^ia:^-^»^Si=*i^ ,lZi4i^ii><H^i^ >:-: --5 ,/; \p= �.... -\7 MR. "ROBINSON: Objection./ : •-/-.' M R / C M S M / m r I think Mr. Loger ' A should be entitled-to state wt# he gave that building permit. :- ' -' \ A. sir"^V>j:;V"';' •' -//.- Continue •"'••-•-•,•=•, -.. '":' - Yes, my recollection, the contractor and one of the principals, Mr. ± Jones,:r came to my office . with a revised: set of'plans and at the time trusteerSignorelli happened to be in the' buildliig and I asked :• him if he / ;. would look at the plans with -me because - I was ; sending ' them to" the Boardr6f Irustees'/lwhich" was ;:act±ng as. a / - v. ; •? Planning Board: because of the "questions i of the. alining ;• " traffic which was taking place along ^badv^y..,;; ; A;'jv ;. / Q.AI^. 1 ^ to you, you were aware : of the use that, was intended ^forthe;." buildirig? . :;"• -"'• ;'-'"•";-- ~yi0!^-^-:-(il.--' / 7 A. 6h9 yes. *' -A^/-- fi/K '! V h..' \\;\/. - ^ V/J» }, '::']-' ;:; v : 7., : y / -'_ - ".;•;-/ v.-.;.1"*-: -'•: Q. -; Was there any/question in your mind"as ,, the Building Inspector of the'Village of North Tarr^own'that " suchi use was permitted oh the" Zoning Code?•_* H'-"'.A-i.^7777 - " A.J^;,. >•/*•& I ^ATm^^Jm^iM^^^^^^^M^^^M^M^^ a --.r �; 50 \ ^ A* ,;.lNo, .tha^ question never.entered '-•?:'y. my mind. I did look ; into/it>tb'make"sure'it was •;^<\ proper but it "just 'Ihever entered" my mind." ^v^j ;v [-.. ••'•':: //?;Q. /Mr. r 1 ^ ^ ^ with 5 the use of property along R t . 9/in the village ' of North Tarrytown?, •\ it . .r ; ; ,,..., /^/;. ''""."•'"•;.., _' '•-'/'"'///"/".'. : ' : / ? \ . - £ /-; A.':- Yes. , , ; ; ^ = -/:,-:- ] :.v.A.Q.;: In your opinion,"does the'/use of the ^V parcel in "question;•; as "far as Kentucky Prie$ - Chicken/ ; ; ;-: is concerned;/conform with ; the\Viiiage'6f North V :~ i / ;>: V Tarrytown?;--.-_/ V\ ?:.••"'« -"^i? flS^-4; 7-; --,-•-*--.£.-. /:>/ - A* '/Yes'/Cif^it-should have beenvv;Y " : ; ^ questioned i •: i t * shotild haWl^fenj'^jie^tiSiSi l JJ /or • 5 oF// 6 yearsvago/fwe ^ j have v Piqkwicic''Vp^t^in'J^^h^^i^rytc^^yij^ H -\Q.4 What ispthat? J ;-£' : -/.. "C^A". y I t ; i s "a T restuaraht / Q.^tybtat'happened/in"Iconnection wi±h that?^:->/ '/" / A. :V. At>6ut 15/^^6= years i T rjLV ^fr^i^'^z^Hi-iv:.^.^-.^ ^ - r A 5 £ ^ ; v ; . v;--r--s£ v.-.: ; my term as a building inspector^ there ;was an accident"downl>; there a n d > e x t e r ^ ! ^ / d a S g % ^ r t h e p l a c e d l i b my ^ifM?J'::---l . _- . i_ ,v r" : J:,,.^ J ^ ^ ^ S . ^ r / O * ^ ^ �51 recollection, there have: "been and they were. allowed . to make the repairs, expand; the building without applying for a variance/ I feel5 that; the use was\ > not conformed at that time.;/ : Q.,i In addition to the repairs'made to the Pickwick Post, you are saying that the,Pickwick Post Restaurant; was expanded in size and additional building was made without the necessity of any zoning variance? ',:-'_.-. ;A. Right.;v"..yw. "'.}['>'''.•• v-v-V': .=-?•' Q. Ai^e-yoii a licensed real estate broker? .•"'•:".; '-'••' ':,-.-; '••"•' - " :- ^y A . ^ Y e s V ;/ ; ' ' " ' : - \ ~r^.0-;_'•'••:^'"_:^pV.""- 7 ^ ;-'."-'Q.y'' How lofig have "you . b e e n ; s o l i c e n s e d ? " y V y A ^ S i ^ "•-••-:'*•/ .'•' ' y 5 Q.v vDuring t h a t period of "time/ ; five-/ -.".- you bought and? sold -real 1 .estate in the Village .of.;. V North Tarrytdwn? " yv^--= 'V.:iV-_ :-fvT', ' 7 • v ; . ; y ; ;yy::yiyyy/;y:y> ; T A . r ~ Y e s . / - ', v ; ^ ; - y ^ ^ i c , ; : _ V f '\*: yy..-:----'i:' ; >Q.y Are;youJ^ai^^ ' are ff a m i l i a r " w i t h t h e " s i t e i n ; q u e s t i o n h e i ^ t . t h i s y ^ y ^ y ? \ 'evening? y >%f;—*!^ - !Vi:.V *---'." --y;;•__•_-.; ^ ;; ^fSyo 7 ^ w ^ / y y / 4 / j -.' - .,-•s.-.-"A:.":""->'Yes".";- •'": -->v--- ? .'/i-'^-'." ^ \-,.l''-.. '-''/"'?vv - yfy. ••-i *^4&3a»^ _.—isrsr -..;.-=-j- �Q. How many pieces of property have you bought and sold over the years? > v: r: A. Weliy back in 1§62 I purchaseda' piece of property known as -100 Potanieo Street which is in a C-r zoneV At that" time it was represented • to me that any use but manufacturing was permitted there. ,;•'; .-•'""- ;-:: MR. ROEENSON: I'object^to'that / ; . answer as heresay as what was represented • t ,.'".'-••=--. : ".-; - to hini.'•'-. " -"'. "..::-.-"".-"; .-' " '._J••'"•',.."''-. --•-".-'v C - -^THE CHAIRMAN:": I am "afraid we ;'.: •). \-\ .?,.-., V r-i f :: are 'getting off the beaten trackV" '-.';. ';'^:^- > •'""•;' ':-:; WR."MTTTHHKT.T.! .: .-".. ., Mr*.5Tnger3 • i n - :; .::: -< .your expert opinion in Real Estate ' v -/ *" 3in" the^ Village of,North^^^^.Tarrytown would r you say have been ,; fairly "extensive, would, it be your opinioh that • -[ \property iii the village' values * in the village would/ .-_-': \}-\ • \ suffer1" because of the' building^of^a Kentucky Pried (Sicken Restaurant on the site in question?9 A. '-•No'.V.;- >--.. r.:^%:^:r V ."'. ::>,, ;- Q. Do you think it would have any; effect V S*K _-rri**» m 3SS££?i3$Et4SSi£@3&&fc&&i ,-? • ---. -> �53 at all on the property? A. No, I don't think it would have at all. MR. MITCHELL: I have no further;questions.: (Cross-examination of Leonard Loger; by Mr. Robinson) '- "v.MR. ROBINSON: Q. Mr. Loger,;A do you buy and sell property as a licensed' real' estate broker? ; A.- That is my primary^ occupation,^buying arid selliiig. for ; clients. .--•' ;• \ •• ;->;_;"•-.••"_• •-•-•.-''/'- ^ , . ^;; Q. B u t , this i s what'ybur occupation is? r - . A.. ; Yes,-real estate broker! - . / > H- V""'~w •/---"-'.v ."V:-'-•-'-'-.". ••;•'"-' .'•• Q. }If each^o^-the'fbur corners of t M s ^ v \ '^\ ;. i. intersection had' a • fast food establishmenti on it, would \: r . - ; = it affect : the property on it? '-':-• /. -.':./"" ._"- '; -f; . ;'^/";'::;"m..mnxaw^'v^t^'is-a"';.. ..." v^'\-.H^' Ih^otheHcal^questibri; -I object ! t o i t . = ' ^ j '-' - - ^ ^ ";'--- \ :; ^ ' ; ; •• ^ ; T : : MR. ROBINSON:; He has beenX ^ ':]yy%':;'l "qualified as an 'expert..; He l a s : been"asked'i i f '"—-/i V A ^ -A.--V.;'- ...; —.- - - -. _•"_ ^.-. wes' ^^-i na-i^\.^- �THE CHAIRMAN: I don't think that is the" question . T h e question ' here is did he have a rigtit to issue1that permit or didn't he? He feelstie'hasthe right. Q. Mr.:Loger, did you issue the balding permit here? ''.-, ; A. .. No, I did not.; •••''';-.' ": .. • ,'-.-."- "tV ' ,;;:.;.Q. "Miy did you not issue the building permit?. A. I had an order'from the'niayor not to issue or: deny it. ;Q. " Before the'end of your term as " .;v building inspector you took no action on: this permit? ••_".... ...-;/ A. I didn't take"any action because former application, my recollection is that in order to 'J issue^a building permit yoii have to have approved:, plans :filed,rapplication andy.of course a fee. / •It wasn't until -—'• I can't recall' exactly, it was ; a couple?of days before the appeal-was filed that T had this. *&&&&& _--=-^*MM - �55 Andwhen the appeal was filed which "was the : last day I believe, or even maybe thesday after." the appealj that last day, we were filing the appeal, I was made aware that filing of ah appeal to the state, that any. action, the permit was not issuedi •'••_•: ;: Q . : You say that you considered these plans with ho reason to examine the property necessary I of the use of the commercial hi^iways?. ^wA. ; •• ' " ..-."•-. Ididh f t : say'that. ;; :"^ J "; Q . v what did "yousay? :/"-._". v-:-- ;.^: ; _'"-'" :v .'A. My reasoning for submitting to the " - Planning Board -at thattime--the1question of-use ";-.' never entered by mind.; It was not-the property use. :, . .", Q. 'That was because:-~ you had • seen the Pickwick ;.-• Post. undergo the changes after the]accident? = :- .- -.- ""A.'•-."--1 didnft say that,vl said"one of the things/ if youfread it"right in.'the bcx3k~unier C-l — 1 % .,5^;- -.'-'.'. •-• ; MR.>k)BiNSON:, Are you "looking , . .'•i'-: -?7f- at the schedule^in the book,:62-8B. \ r.""-:.-\ I; Q. Now, that is the schedule regulation?; 5 ^ erx �A. Under C-l; hi^iway.conmercial. ; Q. It was you as;Buiiding InspeetorV'did you look up the" C-l "when itwas filed, or did: you just remember? : : :, " >" :. : J. '-•'• " :A. ; I remembered it.\; The(first '.",,."••'' commercial application I had as the Building Inspector : so I made a point !^to look it up. .-•'•",.".- * Q. How long have: you? lived in : this Village? -:-;'_•;./k. 7I cameherei wrien Irwas 8 months'; I will' be Hj in September. : '-:- -, , •;•-_•" ; Q. You .were here in 1964? a.. . x e s . .* — -•'..•,'.'•.•- .> ; n'--."•". .fl:--; -. - ,----. Q. Did you;hold any position in;the Village then?.- p.--,'-;'•- .."'•:,_--.;-J:.5;'"~-^:^:V. ; ".' : l U -' : ' ;jV'\-' : "'"•J ."-'• . A . Nor. : ..v?-•:->•0:>7^;/-';-^7;\\ \ ^ - , -Q. Did you"participate inany of the'"-:.-" '•/•:-. amendment"' of zoning ordinance "at that time? :A. I attendedthe .public -hearings.-' > Q. Do you recall any of the discussions about Broadway.or any related'issues? V '~0i~;-\:i*::'i&. -ZZ'-^-^ 0M*4i>M3g§^^SM^&?&S&i -" J:^ �57 A. At that public hearing? I«as;."'here for one reason. In-1962*1 purchased "this property. I mentioned before. . _'.:;•;."" - : - Q. When did'you purchase that? A. In 1962.; : Q. There was no C-l area, then? -It didnot exist at that time, Sir? .; .. >." A.. It was a commercial area. Q.f When they proposed the adoption of the code,'"-I was interested.... I had invested "and :.; I was-under the" impression that it was a general;j commercial * area and/ I would resell -the property as a . -business property;^ _; " --'-•-"; ..-.--";- v >i^: Q.-jWhere is lOO.'Pontiaco in relation.to . '- . \ ."•?: \r:: \ ; -..-•-.;"V ;;•;.-.-. .;- : -.V"^^:.;'/^</--. r -/- Broadway? \ -A.^"it-:is'*the~'th1^ Roadway, across from rthe" gas station.' '"•-:';y ^:" "..-'•"'"".''!*.-:':'v--= -, :i_' v ;Qi Do you own any other prbperty.^ -i i f in" North larrytbwh^ now in a commercial district? ; >"',;_ .4 .: >:;_ •"...'. ";' :?;• '=*• « - " _'5-^^r"'^ _>'•;!.:,: c • - * * ;. r A . > ^ . ^ . :" •-"•-;/- -->VC :'-::; /i??-:>:.."' -/i; ^V-^-r-;/ �4,58r Q. : • ' " - - • ' • - . . . -•.'-'" - -." ".- V.."--f. " .,----.'v "-:" '"--: '. . . -• "•:'-' ''^:^v1V ; V-^iU:='K-^:-'v.i:-.- r V / ^ ' / . y ? •='- : .-^ ' , •- . - ' • • ' ; . = '-'" -- : - = - ' • ' - " ^ .-- y-I:4H? -'-'-. . any p r o p e r t y on Broadway? OWTI ••••J, •- '—: •''' V ' } " ----- • ' '"'"="- ••---- " - : . " -?Qr Have you;.owned property on . ' Broadway since •*I96i» = to the present = time? . ; -. Do you ' . - - ' - • - - - - : ; - : : ^ \ " n .-''.• '•••'-<•: . •'•'•:••'-. ' - - , • • ..." "-,' - y---~ :'.-'• •-•=,- : . . - - " - : . - " - ' - K : • - :• 'l ^;-*;--:-:'>^:\:^M,;^i.-;:. ••• - , . - ; - . . - ; - • . change thereafter, the accident?c • • - , - . " • • • -; " • ...• -- \>- ^ y : y y - , y ; •-- - i '•:.••>.-• - , - A v . ; . « p - -?:.--v l--i- '': . - y . y ' • - - • • • -;; •-• .= ,.*>: ; v - '.'. "-• ,.,, .. • - : * "-.A----. . >--•%building inspector? - -- -= :;- : ?.o. t -- •--.--- .--- ... ' , ; ; . • • • • • . - ;,vr ; - --yy* ' v; f:: : ;: 4- r \ : - Y v . - v , ^ : . •"*'";" ->\« =../. ~ : . ••--:-.-.' • .-.-^.-•-./:- :>--"• - - . ^ - - -> .,:-.- y ::KV*m-f ;- A. , Rl^t£^^^,, ;;-:^:,: . ;.-; ;; ^ -••-• -"" • '"=f-,"#lv•-'"'?"-: - Q . Y o u never;-reviewed * t h o s e p l a n s ? -_-:/-/-'-'- -•-••.'• *•?•..: ,; A . I had n o reason.to:i-v-":-^- i.:: ..-. - ••••.-'.'• Q. - W h e n w e r e y o u first appointedr:\-vp-. v. , . ' =- ; :---;V- -^-.-- W.,:v--:- ^ifH^^y--, ;:-^_ -^---...- •.•••"--::-• A .--.y.-Vv-^ y . Building Inspector, : i s±r?/y;: . ;-•-.."•--• •..-." -. -y>-K - "y .-*-,-"-;" - v ^ K ^ . ^ --"•- " - y - y ^ - v . . ^ _ . _ _ ^ ^ ^ . ^ . - ^ ^ s y ^ ; , : .- A. I believe it was January k\ 1972. : .: • ' •••- -•:•:_y --'.•• :-: - ^ .--;- •";:'-••'". -..' . ..,'•-:'• ' \ y . - : y < ..•-•rV'-V:;;;"' Q . This w a s b e f o r e y o u became •: .-.:.-•- .' '. Q« -Were you f a m i l i a r m t h t h e plaris^' ; . - - - - . '-' -: that were filed by therPickwick Postto"make the -- •' . ry:-k-y.y^^i^^y;,a:-y.-;-:-.:: - r; y Q. -=So you had been .there two years :^; -": v. bet ore this application "came in? ,: -^^ ^:/'.y .-••"-•• -' - - y B ^ y y .^-y - ^^;:^^^-H^^^,-/;,.vyy-..v-:^-.,,y - -- ^EA - ' :. - : . • - • ? . - . ' • yy,' ^> • . • - y. i : . . - , / / - • > i ! ^ : , . :A^:4t>otifcy2 -^y^w&4*S"^M^¥^^ - : . ' ; ; y - -•--•'. •-.v?^> . ;-^V-----,- . ", .. �59 : ----*:^. « ; , Q. This was the first commercial .application you received? A. Except for one other application. ".-;-•'' "";/,'" > ; V ^!k;•I»BI^^N:•^^^have"no_ . "further questions. (Re-direct Examination;of Mr. Loger by : Mr. Mitchell) • : ; ^ ; V;.: i u V :X • }m/m!SGHELL:;Q.['Based" : ; on some'incomplete questioning and answering on the ;_":= X cross4examination of Mr. \ Robinson %"\ you stated you attended a public hearing in 1964?; ~_[ .: -"•>'.' ,v > " •?' -y[ %--:•/- A.\?-Yes'.".".v-:'-'"' ^ / > ' .-• ':'/^r.V. \y-<}';- ; :'";. i .->-. - Q. You had specific interest because ; you owned "the, property?' -:.; - ••-i:i_ "''-..-•_; v > ^ : ^ ^yvvV'*/iv Q. Mr. Robinson"asked;you a ^i;Sliever ; . what "comnKnts^were made with regard ; to Ithat ; f/ at the -public hearing? .;v?^:"'".;V • --.? • / ; • : 'Si' zz.€k&-£r :{-i - , T - - ~ ? J & 1 " -• J : : .^ - . / V ,..-.'; :"'"_..= % r ; - » i- A. Yes^ I have* a : pretty gpbd memory.. .a&ftk^&te; ^ ^ ^ f e ^ ^ i ^ ^ ^ s s s ^ a s i ^ ^ e s a s ^ a a t t S ^ -- -X .----=>: S i ~ S « -x%-&-i-^--'-l-EiA""..~A. *.- V33=» «#--?:Ife^iisi?* �60 . MR. MTTCHELL: Excuse me, you : '-.v.. .i . do have a good memory because you ownedv . " .'"-. property at:the time and you do :/ ; ; have"an interest in it? ^A. At that public hearing we were led : =: -to believe that t we, the people in North Tarrytown/ were led: to believe. .:. ./ ..;:%;- MR. ,. ROBSSON: -•••••-•,'. I object, he remembers what[he believed at the hearing. ..'-•"'. ; > :;,'VA. I was to believe and it was ;; .; . . . . " clearly stated.^.-. brie of the reasons for >•?:; ••-•-.;. adopting these "codes' was the requirements of H.U.D.Athat you have a basic code in order, to'get funds from'; Mitchell-Lama^and"T low income,housing"aiid at-;the ; :. time the Boarb^ members and'; the biiiiding' inspector were > questioned about things"of this"Imture,: and when the code'wasn^t^very explicit/the Mayor; at,the -'v ^f , v" -:^ time,:and the Building Inspector/ both,' the reply :; V;: was"that this was something we;had to do and wasn't • '.:J;'(-' ,J) to be used' to persecute the village* owners -of North" nSrrytown.! "=.•--. £ ' L '- % * i% ^^m^^s^m^m^m 'M.^iJ^S^i^^^^^^dMkM^Ms^4^ �61' Q. Mr. Loger^you are familiar with thezorn^ng ordinances? ,• v A; :Yes. \ ' v i'ic.' > .-:. Q. / Is there any place in the;Zoning Ordinance.where -languagehaV been used "specifically excluding any use? : U ' . : : . ~ .'-•-'". '..[ !.:'.m.; .: J /; ' ., A.^ . Yes. '.".-•"".." '•"-..-•'••' v .'.' Q. where wouldfthat be sir?: ' -; '; - • ;? .; A; ^Again","'-imdep the;schedule"regulations" . 62-8-B; under the manufacturing ordinance. • A' .kY:"'; \ Q. : Would you be'good enough to read'it to the Board? / e x ; V -^/-e--^.- - '""'"" ' -/-••..'•"'•'/' :: - V " : .i- :: -V "• ;. - A. A large scale liidustrial'activity with the customary assessable; use -limited - by performance of standard^commercial1 and residential [use are excluded.. /, ::; " ;-:•_;> Q.Vis:there anything else In t M s table v v; ; of uses;"sir3' where:language is<utilized to specifically.':• .* £; exclude any u~se = other' thantliat locatioii? -4 '-••\^/:^--U;.;'^--^-::'' ':;"' L.<Aiily*: 4 v A.VThis T is^ is one of my reasonsffor reasoning that the C-lr6r a V•'-/,-, v; ii ^xwe^Wi^iisk'i, i->i^fe4^i*K4i3 FT- -s^isf" %idi,t^^i^^mjMmiMMMm^i&Mm �.restaurant in C-l would be a permitted use . :."- /• because-I think the Board-would hayeintended to permit • :. -: •' - this as they' would have tnls in manufacturing. .-".-- /.- ;; W " >:^- '•'- •' :i • -.IMR* MTTCHEIIi: Thank y o u r ; ' :/''•-/• r V:Mr. Loger; ho further-questions. " ~*: ::"'l£- "; - # 1 » - T"."'.V. • r; :, >/ •;; -MR-"' l y P , C H E t f L : :V I have some ; - .other witnesses, I didn It;"7. ;,, . / .: <-V"-- •; ..= ' ••.-/"•"^"-'.:-' know-how far I. would: go. • Iwould::-V ; -" \: / -:^ A " .Vi•"...--. -• Noi^\Tarr^pwh, ; ChieffJandrucco. ••.-.,-:".!.,; (John Jandrucco3 l^l1 DePres';Ave; j ; Ndrth T t o ^ 6 v m ; : a . : witness on behalf of the respondent w a s f i r s t ^ u l y sworn ;; := byxthe^ Chairman of the Board o f Trustees apd;testifiedas follows)[.'^l' : ..'<./•'' ;VV'-'=-."""-•*'. H ; : . '\ -'*'/'"•','-. " ^ . ^ 0 \ ' ' .*..-•-" (Directi Examination of/John"Jandrucco"by ftor Mitchell) r: r^;: ;i"J:.;:W:f _f./ ' ,/^;::> MR./MITCHEfj.:""" Q: j Chief Jandrucco, you-have been chief o f the'police 'department:-ofL the Village of North ^Tara^own 1 for how long? r i :- '1 ^ ^ t ^ / T ; - : J.; '.:.'..;i?:.-AfA/'-: Approximately 8 ^>r~9 years."<W:l)V ^: -•- •-:C-.'..--;^JV.--. .i;.\w>'"^yfe-£S»S^^ �63 Q. Did there come a time in the year : 197^ when the Board of Trusteesfmade you;aware:-of the fact that the application was (submitted for the building -of a Kentucky Fried Chicken Restaurant? . . A. Yes, sir. •-." .-.-'..-.-"'; Q.";"When" and what was the iiBLnner in" which . you became advised of triis application, sir? s--/,?'"*$_• -".-/' A. •: I was approached"by Trustee.Zaccarelli3 who'is.the application examiner. I was.? told to go : out and make some investigation references ? to further the buildingon the'cbrner of Beekman Avenue and: Broadway to [ see "*• if it" is a hinderance' to village and whether it would-be a big traffic^ problem., would • " it rcause atraffic congestion^;;'•;•'I figured the only way, ..-.; after listening to him, = would'be to go5to another - Kentucl^I^iM'CMcken in-business" areas and what the r '-v problem, if ^any3 there was I there / , . / : ^i'-i Q.^Did you do^so? : V..'-.:3 V? ^ . ^ ;° :- ; ~-^d-_~ ',--v_' : -=,=% -^\^MJ-' '-•> .-- \: ,y~r-::.%^~-- --•V-;-:-^---:-*;:\ "-:\.V~ "•-...• ^ V : ^ L ^ £ k r . : ! L^.i^.^j^'-n-.j^v^Mfe-i* r^ - * - . ;-- — " ~ * ••;:; �6k Q. Did'you conduct any investigation by observing other Kentucky Fried Chicken Restaurants in ^operation? . . " v ; •: . A. I did. '*"•"- . ";.'•; . Q. What location? ; A. \ : : One oh Route 9 In'Ossining at • Nelson Avenue. The second one at the Five Corners intersection of Route:59 of Nyack. Q. 'Andrdid you thereafter make a report to the Board of Trustees concerning your investigation? ..".•/ .;V.U:--i-'"': "' - ' - ":;>• :/'! A. I did.; ; " i"; .^£ V?^V ;;;\ J: £ "."". "Q.! And would ryou be go(^"renough to \ repeat to this- board of Trustees concerning your :. ,investigation?9 . A';V-I"dldV .: IQ. And.wouldrybu be:^6dreriougJi to repeat .. to this;Board what;the'1 result of the>iinvestigations were? ,• -A.^I tbid^them, I^went^tblOssinirig a^d/I, v watched them several ftimes j different days. .of: weeks, : different hours of the i day and .nl^itV; I went in and spoke �65 to the proprietor in Ossining. I went and watched him, I watched1 the customers come in arid out. I listened to him j in'reference of the possibility of a jam up of the customers at any time so that -"-/: he ; could not handle; them7" I also went to the chief of police,I went to several lieutenants and several > sergeants of the ^Ossining Police -Department and asked . them what problems might" arise or did arise "from - the Kentucky fried Chicken being located on Route 9 and : ~'~ _i Nelson "AvenueJ I didn't receive at any time any i: V:!'''X. ^unfavorablereply.- 5 1 checked with one up in Ossining T . . > .where they turned off Broadway; into Nelson Avenue; : ^\ \ and then ; into the "parking lot.^-T think there were six ^ 7 . positions in that \: parldiig^ lot and' at v ao time were' all .: ; \six filled. I walkedfup: and .watched- the' one'dollar/; . f ''orders'and then to"the f ten dollar orders;;> I watched what .the maximum time was^that they were there. ; ;l^re.were four minutes, irrand^but]of the place^7;$1;50border, /;V-" was a minute a~nd V half -.to:two minutes. \ I asked the y7V proprietor how he" could figure this out. i^i^P^^^^^ .--£--•iii :==. ^^-—- -as -iz - :TZ -jst ~ -i_* - i^kJ^J¥*M^^^^0^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^sM^^M. \. �proprietor told me that when the customers walked in, from his place in the kitchen;- he could look at the cash . register and see what the' girl rung up on the cash : register, before she handed him the slip; he knevf what -, i, a-size order to give : out. Over in Nyack I watched .' '•- r the same thing with the Chief of Police, Wally Sandbeck, , I thought this was a bad intersection, Route 59 i East," , ;- \ •"•. and' when you have the road that goes j up to the Tappari . .-. - Zee Motel that is in", view, - you have ,the entrance of the ; Tappan'Zee Bridge,"the"Kentucky Fried Chicken"andright opposite this ' entrance, [ you have another street,. a short distance, "there is also Exit 11' at the ;. ? Kentucky Fried Chicken, there is sort'of a five ". '•(•••:•/ \.' corner intersection, right" at' the' Kentucky. Fried Chicken. " There, is where I thought; I could find a better .'answer. : ; I talked' to the chief, I watched the) traffic andr no . , • time was" there any congestion," "I wanted to check his; ^ accident reports .to7 see if any accidents5took place ; because of the "Kentucky Fried Chicken;' •'• The ?cliief \ \; explained1 to me that ^ the accidents at; that intersection '<' were caused by people traveling east on Route'59 in^ y **-• ^-—- ' ;.h&3f£&*•&--v*----^ .^ii^-Sa^j-ii^feiiiass^iit-JisSi Mmmm^^m^m^M^m&^m^d^^M^ �attempting to make a left turn on the entrance of the Thruway where there was a big sign, "No left.turn allowed", and the accidents they did have listed in their books was cuased by someone attempting or violating the rule of the left turn. They said they had no objection traffic wise to any congestion from the Kentucky Fried Chicken. I went back to Ossirring, I also learned of the Burger King. I thought this would cause some congestion and I checked with .the" Ossining Police and again there was no claim of any type of /congestion there. . Therefore, jnrany of those places, the only thing was that: both places were "ripped off", which" means burglarized. Q. Chief, on this "occasion when you visited1 the Ossiniiig Kentucky Fried Chicken" Restaurant,. did you;have occasion to observe the area in and about the restaurant for ? cleanliness? % . s'-sX ••[ !/^A.:" I lookediat it; there" was-no objection by the Police about it being litteredl The only thing,- ^ I did notice "at * one" time in: front ?*of the'; Ossining one the grass could have been cutT - T "= ^ • ' - - It was about 8 inches high. �• . MR. ROBINSON: Mr. Chairman, I hope we do not get too far a f i e l d . -. ' •";.,. MR.: JAMDRUCCO: T h a t ' i s the only -I thing I saw. ^ .. MR. MITCHELL:'^Thank you, Chief. (Direct Examination by Mr'.r Mitchell" concluded) (Cross-Examination" of Chief Jandrucco by Mr. Robinson) •''"."'" V : , MR. R(BINSQN:'Q. ^ Couid youHi" describe'the' location of the two restaurants you mentioned i n Osslning? >•'"-'•"' - -••':/'-.' A. Nelson '• Avenue. ^ . v ^ ONe i s on the Route 9** oh the corner, "of I t s s i t e ~ i s "approximately 25 feet off Route 9i i t i s approximately 2/3 on the way down the hill = oh"the ' rigjit hand'side, heading south. •~--\ ••: / V " v l ; f f < ^ - The one i n Nyack. V -. MR.: ROBINSON:" I m e a n t ^ t h e ^ H "Burger King". - ^'- ~y•_. --.'. ;•; '[ _ '.-•• '"1 "-_' \ s. :^A- : ." -\ ; ^ ; . ;:- I t i i s down s f\irther;sout^^that back f\irther/ s mybe"a huhdred'feet. afes-iiv"-.-^ Vy -.-?? >:-£ HisS^Efe^saS^^SSfi'-sS^x^sSisi • . ^ ; . ^ ^. . : *!-'j._:.-..-£ �Q. It is not on the corner? A. No, sir. Q. Did you do any traffic at these places on Route 9 and get the traffic count/in Poughkeepsie? A. "I more:or less asked about the traffic count here. . . Q. Were you familiar with the settlement Mr. Mitchell "described oh "extending the island on . : •>-•". .: ; \ Beekman Avenue to prevent I the" automobiles frem turning >v \ to the left hand side going east to Kentucky Fried ^chicken? A V / No, sir. • .:. / -.'.•- -' ^ --• • ;•;_.'";[. , " ... "Q. ^vYou a r e hot)familiar w i t h that? . , A. " N o ; sir. ,. \;, - :, . A ; - I:-/V-T^- 1:""-V"--:":-'_-v.r "",-".'---*v::^'-\\;-V;T' "". •• --' Q. : -iSir s if the island were extended : ^ r A . so that you could not turn out onto Beekman \ going toward the intersection, you were going t o ^ t u r K r i ^ "do you belllve that wouldcause a^traffic ^problem for;- ' , =i- _Washdngton^Avenue for people gettiiig back to Broadway?,; D :T: ":"\-v-r " ^ ~:: ;> A;" N o : 1 V;: \'•?.':• - ^;.^J-'"- ' '•/l-::.\:^.^-^~ �70 t l\ -,.,"•• Q- Why. .. •;."'. --;-• .. ; A. .Because traffic has been cut ^considerably recently a M I think it H s going to be cut for sometime because of the'second shift of : General Motors. If you want another opinion } I found\the busiest place, the hieght of our traffic \ . here is i n H h e "morning at 8"o'clock, at which time \ •' the • Kentucky Fried Chicken' would * not. be opened. ; Our b u s i e s t t i m e w o u l d b e '-3|P.M.".to 5 T.M. It : "was when both-shifts J were working. I also noticed : other than Saturdaysi or 'Sundays; we.wouldn't have the ^:; •other traffic• that;the" busiest\time • for.the Kentucky ; . Pried v Chickeh would be from about"5:30 P.M." to"about;,.> 8:30 P.M.", it is the'biisiBSt. -This would go beyond our."police traffic. "; . . ": o:. -•-••--•' T Y,:V: " ; _ ~ •'•'•' . Q. -, Chief, could you.describe the accident', report oh Beekman Avenue andthe" Route; 9 intersection? .".V A. The":accident record is^ low according f ; to a recent survey. It -is made by the" D.O.T. • No. 5>'was ;" at the place'"for "one;year,"'inost" of ^lt was rear bumper collision! ^ --,=-.-;--• _ -?..?-: -:*-_/. i^-Y-.'-":";••*•-•':."='."...• .->" -r-rv---!v^=v-. : \i > ->4-;i-. i ^ i ^ t s s ^ S ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ f e ^ ^ ^ - ^ ^ f e �.71 MR. ROBINSON: W e have '..".;; ""•-: no further, questions of the Chief. :"'-.rTHE CHAlMftN: .. L\ . Any further witnesses to be called? j { {;; . ,C/" " ,-v -:^ MR." MITCHELL:; Y e s / M r . C h a ^ r ^ ^ , /C:- I don f t know how nwch n»re i t i s : g o i n g : \ •"-._ . ._ V ( "--.-• ^ ° add. I r think it is appropriate r ^ "" to hear from the^principals of the ' :"..[-0. ^: petitioner. . Mr.'Jones' would you! like ltd ? -"*'.'".. tal« the stand. ^f ,; . ^ (Arthur Jones, Schoolhouse Rodd, Dutchess County/ a; . >\ . witness on behalf of.the defendant' was T first' duly sworn -y ~. . by the Chairman > of the' Ebard'and ^testified a s : follows:) S;;; ;v ? (Direct Examination of Arthur Jones b y Mr.' Mitchell) . ;•__}•:.':'"..:'-. _ : -"*, .;.-\'.[_ MR.ffiTCHELL: Q. Yon'are^ -• • ; < ^ the president for Kentucky Fried Chickeh of North Tarrytown ^ ; Corporation? "-, - /r , . ._• _-;_ .•/•'•-••: I ,'/^r ,':-'r """:.•:-: "A. 'Yes.'"'V"- ; JV ^ ; , ; / f ----- ^ -':'~' './•' '' "-.-. - i. -V''''--.h-'-''---- -:-i �Q. You have -: been awarded the franchise by Kentucky Pried Chicken? A. Yes. Q. Operator of the Kentucky Fried Chicken in the Village of North Tarrytown? '''•' A. •' Yes. Q. Have you been'authorized'other Kentucky Pried Chicken Restaurants? . : ' • . ..• A.; Yes.. : : : '• ' _ '• ;;;jv^.v.:--. : : ';;.;[: .-- Q. Where ''are ttiey located, - sir? A. There' are 'three,"West1 Haverstraw, New v York, Wappinger Falls,'"New York, and Town of Greenport, v;.' New. York, -which you may know asHudson.r'. v. Q." You have had some experience'in ; ;, operating the'restaurants? '" " :- " =- j ; /•""'A". -,Yes.- "-._;.;'-"" - . - :, '/_".!• .-;:-.\ ' "^JM- : ;' ?M Q^: As a result,: you have:had;favco?aDle^V; :; experiences in operating those restaurants? ': : ./_ : . '.-- -"-•;.•-.'. _A.> :Yes^slr. '-. ::". *^T\- ; - : '\y_:--.*--:-. Q.r The''-National Corporation has authorized you to operate another Kentucky" Pried "cSictei Restaurant in North 'ferrytdwn^ isn't that true?-: ";?!;• - v ^ �73 A. ..'That is true. Q. As?the basis of some experience'as -"''•-. operating these restaurants3 I would* l'iie you to explain^ some of the situations of the' Villages someare concerned about traffic. • I would like you tor report3 -• y, 5." and I will'ask you some, questions concerning^ if you v.. ,;: Vu^erstand, what made,;iwith regards^to,traffic, >-=r* ..v^ obviously it is important to have a restaurant; where there'"•': ,"' _ . ; ; .^f ?jK"L,isfa reasonable a^uht of traffic. '•> , K Q. -' Have ;•: you investigated, sir to determine the ^ amount Jof traffic that ision ftoutej9:inlthe village of * \ >North Ta^ytpwh?;; -.'£ n - v "• • ^ • L ^^; ;^ . ./I '-'- A. • Y e s . ^ \ / ' - - M j ; ^ ; i 1 - ; ' ^ , ' - ; . " .-• r lw:>/. : Q. ^ You;foundiout?what the trifle adtualllj; is?. ;"\-\" ^=-~->~ -•.:-.:.: ^ A. -I didr^ ": ^- ^vr;" \7y ; :-^ Q.;\Wheredid you"fli^'it";out? :. :, /'- ,--0:?, A. I'went to • the New'_York"State Department ;A of Transportation 'and'continued the" most recent u , obtainable traffic = count: for the' road' out here; r , f Q. -Ck^^:you.tell the Board wh^(tte count was: andwhat the count was for.. v?7*:x ? ;i >;--• =££5iSl ^W0&*~ ';•*'•!- K ,; ;- ^ f -, "; : �•74 \ ( A. 1973* there are-apparently some -• years behind, the' most decent ones I could obtain. -Q. ^or:19f3i ; area oh Route 9? • you obtained a count for the ; ^ ; j ^ : : . >.:-:- : ?• "-""'.•' •''•'•••."• MR.'ROBTOSON:Mr. C h a i r r ^ "~ : permit," sir.'••: I t i s takihg us "boo f a r afield; V . ; ; : h h • ••'* 5 ^ - --•;-• I am riot; sure i t h i s i s revelarit t o the "•' -•'['•'•'•' • •; '-•'•-'• ' .;._..-. •"'•;-'-; -/._ ;-v'•:.--• V > ! =7'-' o- \MR.^CHAIRMAN: 'Rephrase your : [-\-'\ . question, ; s i r . / ^ ' . • - i . Q. Mr. Jones'^ can you t e l l 5 us what t h e State .-^ * - * of New york reported (to; you as ; t o t h e t r a f f i c count on" Route 9 arid jthis road lip here?*7 ~'[ i \X " - ' r [-%:-.! ' - - 3 A.^t Irr 1973, "the t r a f f i c from Oarrytown v/ - t o the corrier^of Beeldian Avenue on Rout e 9* t h e average and detailed^traffic count[viiich 1 t h i s engineer was talldjjg about'was 22,000. c a r s ^ l ; / *-• / - c ^ :'•";-•-[[' \ \~.-'^ ':•'' .'•/-/. '•;'''• [;\'[ ' : \ i ;"-again, t h e best^^evJ^ence'isvtte recoil"V •'•'::r"'v; %•-,••'. .themselves.*v^/fe>Mtefe]bL i: i^ts'•^')-';-': 1 cV>-\ - i ; can.I This i s i ^ acceptable.*; ; /.^ - r7 �75 : - (The witness gets up to get the" records) T ; MR'.. ROBINSON: For?the'•; record y ];i-£-: / - * also renew my objection for .the relevency of t h e ' l i n e of questioning. -•}._ C'K CI • "- ; - • M/MTIClSxL: 0:; Q./V24,000"cars go. by that corner a day on" the' average : basis? .-•/.,", ?: -r -} •;-'. .A. ; Whatever t h a t says"./:. , --i.•:*;-.}•>-.^ " 'i/'% : Q/: rMr. /Jones s ;having ^ e r a t e d ' t h r e e \ ^ - : / '.' Kentucky Fried Chicken' Restaurants 3 ;c6uld you give / . us and5 t e l l " the Board,: on the average,"T realize\some days J would be more; or l e s s \ '•• how many "cars come into your,. - / " --: establishment s how many customers you1 have?/ : ^/ \ - // ! •'•."••.- - ~ ];..::", :\"- '. '• /' / / : ^ / /• *.:= ; -/ :/' ./ .'^ ; .. ^ -j;?V ; ; ^ \.'\. : ^/JQNBS ;; /: /.. 'MR. Mnx^EELV- Uritwist :' / MR. /JONES f~-Qn^ the average?:^ . '; ' • . MR. MrKSELL:;^ Yes.;. / : tt^Mj/%^>j ^ average,-1I "would say .between1100 and 130 a day/wMch is^/'^:\%--: a very low figure for:customers;^^ j :-v 7> "^ -r- v fv ^ ^ | ; ? ; f / ^i//; g v^=S-. _--~i«l B �. : ,- . , -. .. : . >Q. Your business is not the"same type, of a business as McDonald's, you dorift have the :_,.- same sort of roll? A. Nowhere hear it. t s .- i . •• \ f~-~? Q. JSo you have about 130 customers ' : 1 y ' a: day, you also have a restaurant which is accessible to pedestrians, do you Sir? '-. ._• A. Yes, • sir. •> ''•5 Q. And of that roughly, 130 customers : afday, some proportion is pedestrian traffic? --/ -J:.!_ -. j;: .-:"." . MFL' ROBINSON: '.-Mr. Cnairmari, I -" . - { -:'--..•/. have to object^I am sure that this •: is not relevant for a permit in the ^,/..'-..Village of: North Tarrytowh. " - •; . MR. MTTCHKf:,f i: I will withdraw the -'/'- entire line of questioning. I was, : ^ • V \ -• :' 'V.: just trying to show the amount of .:../-.-.• ;; •;-. . cars that go ; in, that is the only V v r:- V: purpose;of it. -'We are talking about - V-- : v v :' a very insignificafit tr^fic impact that �77 was - involved in that location. That i s the" only purpose of t h i s questioning. ; M.CmnMANr^The Board w i i r t a k e : i t . i n t o consideration.' I have no - . . . . " . . ' =- -"•" MR.MITCHELL: further questions. (End of Direct-Examination by Mr. Mitchell) (Cross-Examination of Mr. Jones by-Mr.:Robinson) MR. ROBINSON:: Q. Mr.,Jones; have you lived in 1 NorthTarrytown? -.-' . \ - ..''""''.'-•' : X - ~ Y e s . " ,::";""'j "... ' - . ' - ; / : •-: QJ-) How long "ago was t h a t ? ; - A. I have, t o say my memory i s bad, seven or eigjht years.ago. ; . *; ; Q. *-. You ? a r e f a i k l i a r wiffi : the Village? : '-V -;.-•-•-~\K.'}. Naturally. ^ : ^ - '•A^-zk^^mm^k^^mim^s^msm^m . > �78 '""•-. Q. And seven ;or eight years ago were you here when the new ordinance was adopted? A. I.do not have'.'the foggiest idea.. -'v Q. You don't own that property, do A. Kentucky Pried^Chicken? No, "-I don't. Q. .what is your office in Kentucky Fried Chicken?;! " v 'Vv : - ; * -, = ; '-'% •".• •".•:'.; ••': MR'/; JONES:"": I beg your . - -".•..-••"*'"'"-•' v\ .-pardon."'* * ".""V;"£V, .. -.'"-. "';;.-•_".' . Q.""'What-is your;position in"Kentucky Fried Chicken, s i r ^ ? ? >: : -'-'*"'• . - ~:W. "-';•;'.•/ /AiVfr hold* the 6ffice;bf President/ ? v. Q. Is it a corporation? A. /That is fright.: : ./, . r : ^ ; :;< ? --' ; Q; Do you'- lease these parcels of land? A. YesV : "^^^ ^ — ': ' i ;Q.v: You lease this parcel; of ^ land? A.'^Yesi. •"".'..- .';-- lXl-;v- r -- ; \\::%^--iSi^ .'"- = t ' : - ^ i;"'':.: ,. v, ^ �fe- t.- 79 .. Q. Right now it is being used fora parkinglot, is-that rights Sir? ; ' ,. .. , A. It looks like it.to me. . MR.:imcffiS/:"-'•The-legal , -;;'.-• ; • . . . effect' of; the lease is not the; V- ; . ' y . concerrrof this Board. ;-•'!-••"• •.'.;';-'-".•-•' *'-•'" -•-"';/ M R . k)BI^N:^I^t\iiie.;ask';arbther*" : . ,r .question o f this^areaV : : ..'' Q7 Did you'bbtaih a copy of thezoning ; : ordinance, of this. village before "you -decided, to locate a Kentucky fried^Chicken at this\co^n^?^>^.'.'''."-'':•*••:'-^;- /' .; /7V: "'•_. :['• A. I couldn!t .tellyou 'when'I decided to dolit, In:the first£placed' I have a; zoning ordinance/ whether it . *.? was before' or after, it is'obvious it must" have ::; - 1 been before. "/P/-.>.••'-: '••:- : \ /".: •;-. ^-.v; -.:"*::''., "'•"'-,-:-."-"". Q. Did you check the zoning map of the : J ; 7 village when: you "decided: to open" this parcel?; ; ;-_:-:•• - c /A. :Sure.'"-'"V-^V-^;^ . :- ; .; . p/;--,'-. '[•_'. -• -".;•<••-..• '-, V.""""' *-..; X ^;:C:Q. D i d you know, what "zone it was in?, ;:;j-j-:';.:: Vy:-\ A. A Oh/ yesV7;7Uy M*--;®i» Myyi-:KW -1=.- j-'.a-. - :iS=*T-r^£ i ^-J-'iifj.-;- v-.&J.C-fe •--*~-"-~' t "-^S^j^^SiS©sSS?" , ' / :" .7:7%\.; -\' >.\ V^:.-. �'80;. '. Q. -What zone was it in?%: ,.vV A . C-l Zone. ? .:./.' / .• - Q. ;Didyou look up .the C-l schedule in the' book? A. My attorney does those things.;. ; , :. Q. ,You:personally,did not? •A. "m.-};}::^'-x •:/-':• '-V •" '••.,. ••'=•;,- -- , • •-."• ;V'M.--ROBINSON:'' Wehave no)further. questions,"• s i r . • nojflirther questions. / -:. ... ; : ;': v * any other witnesses. :_ •"' • i---_- .! 4 '< \-'-.-:"; :" ^MR..MITCHlt Vv ; ; ;&:t •.V;.\-:; :•'-. • M R . : R Q ^ ^ •'- • ; V - ! -'-.;'- >Mr.-"jttt^en.---"^--/>;:'\v-: • :"'.' . *w-m'i'/:Vi V-"-:v.': / -^ ;" " V : ^THE CHAIRMAN:/ Any other ,V; "- witnesses?: -.. : v.^.; .^ -MR. ROBINSCW^You^ presentation of the bpeniiig of -r - ?'.v. IVEi^. ! Mitchell' sTpresentatiorf before he ;; ; ^ -.-":*? iWs' : - called h i s witnesses J? he" made the principal ^ -1 MI v .-^ �81 '- I VrfKJ V J l e ^ r argument. The first --'is;: I''%_ that theseappelants'are not aggrieved,; -/* should /they have no reason to be ,;. : . ^ r V here,' the Court of Appeals In this ; : .' state last December in the case called^ Doubiestoh Civic Association ruled \>: that ^the very kindrof appellants here C.B.C.A.P.M. Vis: clear is; to "have a standing,; what :-.- ^ thisy the-interest• for alT of these1 appellants are r i & t ' h e ^ ^ /^is^ -".;;, ., '.'".-/. iI)v 1 you itsrapplicatiori3^itvis quite:clear that one )"i •':; of S m : l i v e s v within" th¥;2(30:ft.; radius which v; - this 'Village ordinance requires you to' give >'&Vy. ^ t i c e t o OQce. The sec^oM'ai^urnent 3 --.':';t ;^was how,\and when, Judge^Wal^ : \•••!: having this'v^lematterj001^;backQ\. \- ^ ; y--. ^3 / t ^ to you pec^e^because you "are theV. ;,r-:'\_ C, .; .--^ \/ "Wf"boHSi'in ^chargehere. You"dbn^t^ ^;•v £vV."Yf;"-v V^£3&£^s&St3£My££5gfegg£££ �have any choice anymore. All '..'- "you can do;is decide that Judge Irainbr J - wrapped: you up,. that is not so. You have got jv a copy of Justice Walsh's opinion, in that he makes it pretty clear that you have fullT-jurisdiction, 7. This is the Village of North Tarryicwriy this Village . ; has the' rights1 under the laws of the " State of New York to decide'the "V ^ appeals< of the. Building Inspector, you;. "-fi have:to;do it before'you?can,look at" itj you' have more power than any^ other : . board in the' entire village/;; Q3ie~ question of appeal'^you are of thVSecutive v V - , authorized - power, no Court can -take' that : away from you. 1 say yoti ttier people ' r; "rmake"that decision.: You are'the^duly;. '••:• appointed : Board. it isT; your responsibility .::;^and;the proper^aK)e^; i s ^ t e f c ^ V j ^ ^ ^v- ;-; ;"- �There'is In law, there' is no[ estoppel in law or infact.. Flmlly, Mr. Mitchell made ,';•'. a great deal of a dispute of the Court case out ~.;/--.,' of the extension of the islaiiol'and the , /;".•; parking requirements in'settling the Kentucky Fried Chicken. It is quite clear/you" . cannot settle any kind "of a'case for the ; . > use that is not allowed. >.The settlement;.-_: I- \ *•**{• /indeed,-the order of the Court/ as the r ' r ^7- .; :- Building Inspector, has discretion of the - ' \-'' . . - -^ •. - " '';; ['•/--M-_r % settlements JPhe^Building Inspected?/;^ •"-? •- \1!;,.A 1 » " t ifrnb way binds how that decision will be.'.{:'^r;- ^ : . ,.. \ The^ Building Insj^ctpr has t ^ , : ?< ..to makelthaS decision soiiewhere.the first t3mstand^j" \ if he is wrong you have the authority to"-.- 0^J:_•-,-A.-. •.-;' :<; -v. say he is I wrong. That no le^l? battle w±th'%:_s /:; ^ " things that some things\were raised with ^ : ^ > / ;;- V, '.'.• your decision! X ^ e r e are. a huiito which need to beranswered before calling'x'fi:;^\y\p'£,'>•-' '•-"V- v ': *-'.'-,;" the^repres^itativelof C.BlC J U B I M . I ^ ^ f^ftif^ lVff-:i:*-^. J"';: �SH since a great deal of the testimony'by the Kentucky Fried Chicken through Mr. Losier and = ;.~: others'dealt with,1I think it is incumbent uponme to eallLMr. Moore back and ; • ,g0 into that question. What was the reason for making this change from a general commercial^ zone where all the business put a gas,station. •-].'•'•' •/:''' MR. "ROBINSON: What I.would-like , y". ; " . • :/ ' to ask will only take a coupleTof minutes^ '.V-V--V---7--"j:Mr; Moore. -THE-'CHAIRMAN:' Yes. (Mr. Moore resumes to the witness stand) •*- \ :<•'• MR.-MITCHELL: Is-it my understandiiig >^; that Mr^ "Moore is being recalled? ..' - - ; ; : l^-:^; • : /;% .I'.?- MR. ROBIN^N: ; ^This is;=rebuttal^things^ that Mr."Losierbrought"up.:f^^r; : •^5/ .^ '•'%&::.V! �85 MR. MITCHELL:. Excuse me, rebuttal" is permitted with regard to any [/' direct •• testimony Mr. Losier gave in regard to public hearings as-to with the cross ? examination of Mr. Robinson. \. '••y^:::"-:•-••'" :>. M/RQBINSVVI ." disagree, this is - r: an administrative board j it is a: public . hearing. I think this is legislative.history ••-W. ^; as "a zoning board, and C-l Zone is also crucial. -1 -£ Mr. Mitchell'pointed out through hisl witnesses :*;] . -; on direct":examination/ Mr. Losier,: to the zoning ;'V" otxfinancesjonly in the mariufacturing zone/there is -competition* where the uses is '• prohibited. It exists in' other zones as >. v well;, uivs ---_--. ^ MR. ^ CHAIRMAN :f Why don't you leave t h a t up t o the zoning board' t o decide? >" V v / . .;f C ; :. ^Ma?RDffieON;Ife a r e ^ >;^ ; • ./ vJ^ v ;3v ^ "' ^| OIE;CHAIRMAN:¥l t h i ^ t t d s l B c ^ ^ S i ; ;^ smart" enough t o -interpret t h a t zoning j / I jdcai't••/„{ :.?J; think we need too miebmore t a l k a s t o ' J:; $ • ---:->:*.--_t-u^*^!K--vfi..-"-. what went "op a t 'those; pai^icular.^^mie^tliigs a t that^time. ~---:>;-. i f s=> V?- |S^ ~-s«n ""*-i%^3S*Sesi^s �86 MR. ROBINSON: For the record, .•; I must take an obj ectionand" a strenuous bb j ectiori. It is highly inprbper to exclude . legislative ; history. / . y " ::"-\.---'•-/*.''- THE CMIRMAN: I don't think it is our> ,.f. .business, why he conducted it at that time. ;- The only thing we are interested in now is in.y? \ _X that book now. . . . ".•':-'-.-y'i-.% -,'--.'.• MR. ROBINSON: I am-trying to tell you what is in the book now. \: ['/'-•';'.'\.-"''."'."-'-•'.';-v.. P, . H T^ X MR. R O B I N S ^ •next witness and we;have:bur objection to go on the" record.;. , (Helen Ciocca, ikl/-Halpern: ;.;,;- ;; ;" ^ . ?-.::'?;': ;v Avenue^ North Tarrytown;1 a witness' on ^ -P- behalf of the appellant was first duly sworn.by the ? Chairman of the ; Board and testified'as follows) / (Direct Testimony'of Helen Ciocca by Mr? Robinson) ^ y frc-. :**.;> -v ?: y > :; y : '- : >^§ r •;': �MR. ROBBISQN: M r s / c ^ c c a , -:-': •-_•/-"'v what i s y < ^ ; position' with^;the - Appellants? _': A. Yl am Chairman of ^ & of the TarrytownsV Y.'-v .. r v .. ' .-: ' \ • :.. Q. Will you describewhat : th~e C ; B i c ^ : i f I may c a l l r i t 3 : 'is?-. - '.- •; / : : - " . ' "_' •-;• >"/ , ' -. ^ " : * V : M;\ . A.. I think i f I canC read " i t t o you^andshow ybu the;photos-first. '--';'".•"••-•---., "! ..V>: .-,.-...- ; / ; M.'ROBITCSON: - •, ^ : -~' •'••'- I thinkjwe can ^sa^tiiiie... \. •; - :C - . / . . '/ : : :-"\ ' r ^YY'-;y-l. ,"'-:';: ---"Y\ ' ' ': " >; - "•'-''--' •''->: /•'.^V-::'^.y03CR6cCA:; May I , j u s t ' read- V : : ~Y-V the : objectives of the C.B^G.?^it i s to"; f : -",';••-• -\ r ; i f we can describe this,',a description of : ; t h e C.B.C; >; •: : , t'Y/ : V >arousethe;^ ; ,-'.,._ ^ healthy f environment ^ t # ^ ^ _-- 2 S; t t e above goals. ; Enlist the support of every y'/zfA .-•.•• ; individual,'young "arid~b&.%\;C^S '[. • \'-/\-\%y-';:'~: '.i-' /;.Q^Wtot'l^"'ti»:"C.B.C/Mo^'"to t h e CciSiijMty ; ;VT "'"'"> -"; arid the Village?; :., ; , 4^^^iH&^ ;\ : :•%, -\; :-'-.'•• 'J ^ . : j ' . - ' - " " ' - ^ ; - ; Y > Y ; \ . O Y ^ ^ 7 �•,-.-; • - A. Other than what is listed In the brochure, at one time in I967 the C B.C. had a conmittee that „, sponsored" the beautification program on Beekman Avenue and awarded to three property owners,$566.00 each to restore their \ , buildings. The C.B.C. initiated a program in the elementary schools \this summer. Two teachers are going to the Greenwich Audubon Sponsorship. We have planted boxes and.planters both in Tarrytown and NorthTarrytown> for the beautification of the Village. The C.B.C. has been working^on Rockland Hall and Estate portions/ I think most Importantj; the'C.B.C.; proposed environment advice for Tarrytown and North Tarrytown.,."'The. environment working in North Tarrytown^ without 'reviewing the record,: has v not been more than50# of all the Coninunity. 'They have " ". been strongly rec«nnended by the State and County to purchase for these Councilsto help the "citizens7 that we are dealing with tonight.> .;-: " / ^ • ~ , ; ^ ; . Q. Could you explain" what the interest of ... , theC.B.C. is in the present z b r d ^ appeal? v ; // "/'r '"'-..•'.'• A. _'* Well 3''it .'is very evident to us that the": :;. •'-. application does not comply with the zoning ordinance. \{u,--- �89 ; MR/MfetiELL: I object to that testimony.. I ask tl^t^ that "testimony .bestricken out. She has hot illustrated-:, any expertise to,come :t6.thatjop)iiii*n, '%*•'--\ % _'.. . -: -, - - _.'-! \ ^ MR/" IDBINSON: Letv u§ rephrase that' - *; " •-': question. ^ «J-'- ' "*„---*'--,-J:•-'.'^s".'=:"- Q. Where do the niei^ '--.",-'.--: A. In Tarrytown and North Tarrjrt own'basically.. Q. Do a fair number of 'them live" in1;North " \ l . ^ Tarrytown?; : ".',_-_ '.;-•" /-••'.-.."-'_:-_-'"=""=.-"' :_V: "v; •:, ' V- ? /:'"•- ; ... A.^ YesV we have them in r the village in v a r i m -? ".v-_"" -.'-." •".'• .-•: .':•"':"•'.. . --v/ . "• •-:.'; /';";=".-. , -.;._ -','. _/ '" ~ : > "-•-'• areas. Q. "The'C.B.C.^ in accordance 3 as you"""prescribe ^/ : :~A: '.. I • its activities -as set forth in" the brochure,^ has intended activity around there as: "proposed? . " •• "•- ^ A; Yes, we have; '"-' v A %._.-. • ;;. , . _ t i '-:r;-:'^*""' X -"K'-1"" "'/._• ••': "-;"-:/. ,.;.":--i i 't-_ ,,. MR. MITCHELL: There is-no question'.\ "that their organization has : some very - : -; "•'•- fine 1 goals,' undoubtedly dohevery good work / V >.w - ;^;farLthe';Ta^^yto^_/;i'"I don't object .to 's-r/k'A; — A • -_••-- -X 'y-Ji'f:•''••{ Mr. RbbiJison rephrasing his 'question, havef" ^ ." :;'--; �you done work around the area where the :. /•' Kentucky Pried Chicken -is; located? I don't -• ' think the village is that large.~'~-}:-\ ... ' .-":'.-'.''. : 1VR.'-ROBINSON: .Are \ you engaged v. - in'property on Beekman Avenue? A. Yes, we have recently worked with the Centennial Committee and planted bulb's throughout the Comnunity; and we have helped with the restoration of the post-office in North • larrytown." We keep -the planters. going oh BeelaiBn _ Avenue.and in^NbrthjTa^ri^o^.v\we take care of the plants3 -,we have helped with what we' think the beautification: of the: village *,->the gener^^environn^nt we feel is the responsibility of the village officials and along into other areas;%'•:* Q.J "Areyou concerned{withi the general^ development in the changes of building uses inr the Village? ;-• A. Yesi we are/ - : ' - . :•. :•:•., / •'.. •'•'-"'•- "i'-. -"'"- :\_ ; Q. In vieV of, the~answers youhave just.given! m e 3 ; / did you and'the Board 'of Trustees and the Boardrof Directors ;-„C:_):\;>r-- v : -_-: ; • Governing Board decide to take this 'appeal? A. •- Our steering; committee is ; 100$ behind!this V " appeal. _:•:-. .::}'\ ;*•/ . •?-.M=?^?5-t".'^-i-^*--—-" ~-:'.^s-:i£^sFto^-^^^ j-V.;.,;/;>. .- .;- ^ := " .-•"..:-"_-'-"":.:•:;..;.-..;' - ".;•';-. �Q. You decided to take this appeal to the furtherance you have just described? '-"'- . : ' A. - Yes. •-..-,,•-•'.' Q. Have you shopped at • other Kentucky Fried Chicken Restaurants? A. N o . -•<-,--:"• •;/ • MR..ROBINSON:; No further questions. ; MR. MTTCHEli: No questions. ' MR/ROBINSON: We call; Carl Sardegna, ^29 Belleview Avenue^ North Ta^yt own. -.--.-, ? (Direct Examination by Mr?1 Robinson of -rGarl1 Sardegna) ; .;",.';'/ position? :.-MR. : : TOBSSON:VQ-'-. " What; is^^ur \ ; -~: ;.-*.'" v..... -.'. i'•*.'?'•: ~'i.\ '"'. "Vx -:---- \1\. '•--. ::-:_'="•' •-•; -:-y^ .--. """"•••--"• A. I amcurrentlya Board 'Menfcer of- the ^Association and was past;president. - ':;-: "•-;--- l''-^iy;*A:: ?-^? '•-'?-:•.•."'- .*''"'. ;'Q;' Wouidryou 'describe for us what the P .M. A. is? ? « |' A: |. It is - the * Association of/home owners = in Philipse: Manor. ?l They will ? celebrat^^'thelF 5btn^arriiversary-n^t year .'*"-": We have J 5 0 families, approximately350"or 400 people that1 are paid members "of the Association.!^.. ; j^; ,: : r .' . ' r?. ^ v> . , w ; * f'fk,P •&"* *. 4 .- - . - • .•-,..: r ^-d^>*-^^-^&^^=SsM;^K=s=a^i;i£^ t -^JfeMs^kS 5 ^^^^fe?^- i ^^^i& ; e^^^&& �"-.- Q. What i s t h e i r purpose? - A^ I think, quoting from the by-laws and the objective section of the by-laws, to.promote and preserve the property i n t e r e s t •'" of the coraniunity, welfare of the 7 land-owners of Philipse Manor. Q. . S i r , as the r Board : President of the P.M.A7have - you discussed 5 the-permit here on appeal? A. Yes, : we have. • - -7 - ; . . . ; \ ; : Q. Did you'decide t o take an appeal "from:; , 7^'7 '/:_•. the issuance'.of the building permit i of the Kentucky Friedl J; v; CMcken?/ -;v-; ^7 \ ";v7-^ "."-:' " : : < : " ^ ^ • ;v .77;/ Ar Yes^"v =:;•:,,,.,-.7-i-?%': -; ". -":'; --s : "'- : l g M-i ":;V;'";.'•..".' , V .;-/. / v ; ; ^ •••; Q. - Reading torn the minutes of, February719... 7"v.""•' 77 '^77- 7 . M; M n S S i : ? " O b j e c t i o n there-7^7 are no minutes" from t h i s o r g a n i z a t i o n . ' 7 7 C 7 7 " A 7 : 7 ; X < y 5v "' \ ->V^V V-v.... ; ^ ,^7 r V^ xp^^SAHffiGNA:\'l} can t e s t i f y 1 t o ' t h e } effect t h a t I^was atitt^]meeting ''of rthe7-:y^^---/- --:' ;--•"';'-. 7^- ; -7 v-^ Association r 7 7 ; 7 7 77^;/-: - A : ^ :^>.:7 ": 7.;.-1 '•?••-' 7f:'^ tofestabii^ ^X? • liSMA W'^^-^i^'^^^^^i^^S^^ ai#^4«iI^^^iI&^^^^^^^^S^ :~-~"l"_ �93 MR. MITCHELL: I have no ,; '. . ^-y/• interest in why they are\interested^" let V ; .: them establish1 it factually. V. ; - V " ,./' • >v" -- M what happened at the meeting of facts. : \MR. MITCHE1L: •: It" is ^certainly/;:^r: not binding to' the application. = .. I/-'/V../^V ffilS^^ .-':;; •>/'; , MR^ -MITCliiL: ^ I t i s & r t a i n l y here, : say at best..;; ^ ^- • ; := ; > \- - -o ^TmCHiSFm^V. ; r : V :f 7 -'-'-jY.c-'.vV; We are just"; bringing . ; Iff here what went on at ; their i meeting. 7 '% \ f\y::?{ .; -: \"vv ? -^. - They are either for. i t or. against " i t . '••%_:'y'r\ m^R08Z3$^ V; pay "attention to the' P.M.Ai: Ij^Mr.7Mitchell^-"--'"' raised 7 i t .Ma. ; ^ , - ? ^ ^ ;;>^ :""i • : ; :' 'f-i"?K"\:'-: ttol proper Binutes of. the meetiiig.ist)t -\-l ^ : • ^ & K & - Z ™ CHAPMAN:?1 t j ^ •; :.Ko-'.^ honest;' truth~.f I think /the Board: members know • -" p r e t t y much what the J o r g a M ^ t ion; stands - f o r , w e i ^-*asr v'ky*'&f'fiif'f^'Jf,-i^:S&:'^!f4--S.*-'-,<"">i--3i*5*^>j4¥*K#^'5^tJS§6#j6=feW5t£fe.'^t£2i«fe^5^^^»4r?i'3Sa^^*^j&S?JQfc£iH&^:£i&>3£Q&£*&ie'**^3lg]j �know, I don't know whether we need*a lot of ;•-•'• '-:-;'-,.'. -_:•'/•--;."-?'••?.'.-: discussion on it. MR.,: ROBINSON: what'is the position . in the"5 Board as to why you are interested in this case? "-: \ MR. MTICHELL: Objection, Mr. Chairman/, it again-calls for the operation of -either this •' : witness' mind 'orr the mind •of the Board of Directors who are not available "for this . cross-examination. . . , ••'_'. , ' . - / „- ' THE CHAIRMAN: Is this any part of ,- : the Sleepy Hollow Garden Club? ,:y.:>. -\ :.-;'•'' ; A.-' NoV ' " ~:-\.y\v: ;.'."',:"', : '•-; /.\,SE ';"-. -^ :~;;>t" ;V _ *\?~ '";'•/-v.-^'^ CHAIRMAN:f I have^;ietter : -:^.-,"_j-:- addressed: to me here. The members of the - V ; = :% Sleepy Hollow Garden club request me' to urge'-",-:')~•;-;•_you "to build a fast food outlet:on the = \. - v . northwest.; corner Jof Beekmah Avenue""at - Broadway/^ :y: \ or .understanding *ity^ tMs" ; use isT a .violation ' 'V.\. f ? and willbe "a5*determent*^? ? It;' is signed Mrs. ?C •. Joanne Morris/^You see^ ithefse Ithings'we \allr kSow. ; �95 . I think i t i s useful to bring up why and .where, for we know p r e t t y much what i s going on. . ' ,_•-,". . ' / . : ' • - •-,-••: " -- ' -".-•'""•-• MR. ROBiNSON:' And I understand^ • ; we w i l l : have the offer of the - testimony stand' for the -''record. . They'' are concerned \: about t h i s property v a l u e . . Thank you. -. '] . ^ ^ -.•;v'.;•-'". : •'"'-.; : . . . "MR. ROBTOSON: 'Thank y o u / ; v e r y ; ranch.:'!-..''•• .'-• "-'• • *.->>:"-';'" •.'-••,•.' •_•.-.. _.. , ...•-_'.' ( C r o s s - E x a m i n a t i o n o f Mr. S a r d e n g a b y Mr'." M i t c h e l l ) : '>•';. V. .",'. •> •• M^MITCfeLLV l i v e a t gej.lview Avenue?; . / ^ Mr.-• S a r d e n g a , y o u : . ^ i - i .^1 ;.-/"'"; :-.' Q. : How would 1 1:'get thereft?~omBeeloion"Avenue?'''}.-. A.7- I think you\cquld : probably ask Mr. * Jones, W-*--?,.& he lived: next to me. Walk from Beekm&n Avenue' from Brva^.^m^mi: '--'rW-~y.i^.'~~,-,^-.-iiii^Jh^h_i-?j£i^^ �': MR. ROBINSON: I don't think this line of testimony is relevant in view of what he just said, we'"' limited our examination. ;MR. MITCHELL: All I want;to find ^ out is where this" gentleman ~ is in ; 'relation to this site? . \ ^•Hv•- AMR, WHAIEN: That• Is v a questions of economic Interest, i y : ^ . ^ i s . : ; "^ •-.-.. ^^:,MR.^ MITCHELLH; If he'is an . ,, expert and "can give an opinion of that testimony •then you "can/qualify him if you can; / : ; • ^Mmi: -^V R(BINSON: '• I toilt'have '•to] \:W •]• qualify; him/'' TJhe-Chairman saidJ he knows' ; pretty wellc the reasons if you want .to go \ >.£::: -^ into the ^question of economic value." %^;;:Tm : ; ; \.'-::/-•-.." '"-'ivdOTiVt iSnlc v; •• we haveito.~%i we" know.'the*' answer to these ; ; ij "'. questions"pretty much,'"•-*';We7know where he lives.; questions. 'W_ -/?'-?;:% }.M~.,. . /,, -""^"V - :.: ^ V r/ ;•-;•"''.-.,->~ -"~ ^SVt-rifA ^toMSffia^^ >-*V£^'- «isK �97 MR.'-ROBINSON:' I have no "further X Questions. (Mr. Sardenga: is excused) MR. ROBINSON: We will not call ; any further rebuttal witnesses.? I willf submit > to-you k:proposed findirig of law on this matter. -•., We are of the' continued position that the Zoning Ordinance is clear,- and if there are , any-ambiguities whatsoever,"that ambiguities are to be" answered" by legislation,• that shows ,; that exclusive zoning was created out of all ;' the commercial -usesL out of all* business';zone ; in 119*16. ;•- One \ little"; stretch on Broadway.-/-: . -. -. V\ >. was/movedas to that future uses J1 there would-*: :rJ?;.'f be the alternative uses existing, riot "conforming .A uses_. % As we recall; them, 'we" are allowed ?c'S£'''~~ -.•n\ w- * ••£*&,,. :/ ". v; t o continue : - l i k e the Pickwick Post" or: the'i;-:. : •-;. -, a m i r Bar>^ these can ^continue, \ they^ are -,: ^ ^ \^"proper; new/uses}as tof conform under the":law. •m: ammMi •-^-iV?-: : •• • ^;J-v---v..--- at^SOfe^^^ .-*>-^'«^fe% �/ I f we b e g ^ j t o / c h i p awayat,our Planning. . Board of "the. Village of ;Nortifi" a t o ^ c S * ' " t o ^ L.: V ^ 7; accommodate developers t o come from other ' • V ¥parts "of the" sSat e without due regard t o ^the" / s t r i c t ; l e t t e r .of /the Zoning" Law, we a r e , ' ::-* going t o s t a r t -giving away our Zoning Law across:the board.'•'• Mr'•' Chairman^!youp^inted^out the only way we can begin 1 to/ dto^that i s t o a t least follow the law. -The parking"::;-*:\/ -V/V .":::'_ l o t that i s there now is" : a %bh-conforining use^ i t ^ i s a proper}legkl u s e : v - i t " i s T n o t ^ a u s ^ ,'^ / ^ , . over-traffic of any problem^ That use could v .; not continue but begin : & "change ^ l a t e r a l l y : M : - ; withouteven' ; c o n s i d e r ! ^ of the-variance 'or otherwise. 7 ^ t o t ? is^ if? the^" ••",? -" ; CI Zoning, = i s simply ionproper, Why ? it'wlLS^ ";:; called^a C i r Z o n ^ ' i f you tafeTaHot'iii t ^ V Q ^u .Village and want.'to'pub 'a gas s t a t i o n l o n ' C o r t S ^ f e ^Street, - you would say, we "do not "want ;• a g a s | = v ^ / 1 : ' ^ s t a t i o n on C o r t l a n d t l S t r e e t / w e ^ a n t 1 i t • on> "y'~. k^^A Broadway, that -is ? where most of the cars "come -: :C- - :. . •...•.;''--;",_."•--.. j : - i " v , - " - " , s " - ; ' ' ' - * �- .-; and go, we say the Zoning Ordinance is -....-. strictly interfered with. The Board; can maker.the';r' decision./ We put our;case in your hands;" Thank you very:?much. ••_/.' -'..-,. . _.- ^)/>''?'"7'- ^ -/MSy' MSSHEIIL?- I would •_.'-:',-.r "= "•"-'. .:•;•'.,,. ?-. like to have ail of the documents which have- >; been submitted to the5Courtj; I am sure the Village .: > i Attorney has all^the recor^sTtNo.> 23-1 would likes; " .> tp/object/stren^^ '; "•. -S by this Board of any findings5by the Hudson \ ;V : " : River Valley/Commission. -We'did not r. \^ -.:;:Vv;-\- '"••, /participate in that!heari^ ^-^~ object. It was just an advisory heari^./. • on behalf of the'; Hudson/ River! -ValleyIbcmmission. : ... It "was not M i x ^ ^ to "the interpretation of the "oniliiaric"e. Sir,! • ";'ir we haveaiready the exclusionary? aspects by M r o ^ / Losier. v l would gust life to e^hasize the/4//;"/// 7 r way I read the documents^the way/i/am b e i i i g ^ ^ y ./-:;;V:paid to tell1you how T read"itf ;;^wiJli5teke^;^:;f= �100 a couple minutes of your time. It says, Retail and Wholesale Activity related to ^ehicuiar traffic. It seems to me that^ > ' there:is an inconsistent variance here. :. >. ' ,':' - 4 Mr. Robinson says it:is going to create a lot "of traffic, the only evidence before . tfis Board is the objective evidence of-. .^ y . :: -;: Chief Jandrueco, who testified that he observed .-.;-• : it at "other businesses "and "s saw - howrthese businesses operated"and • is -there going to be any••,traffic C problem. . . On fthe other, hand this restaurant: is7designed to service-vehicular traffic'in"a sense and there are .people who come - to that . .;,-. -;: location in?a'car o r " ^ the road "arid {avail" themselves Tto the"parking and:> . be served 1 . Mr. •• Robinson seems \to: indicate , // \ ) \ to me that all he.expects in that;zone is a-? ' gas s t a t i o n . "The ordinance i s wratten,* ! tl^'s^le r of ;; a c t i v i t y ^ = vehicular t r a f H c / i n v s ^ r ^ ^ ..-autqmo^)jiesX; i t - d o e s n ' t sa^v s a l e and servicing ^ § : v --ST- "±r *- .-" =^^~ �lor- ,v L 3 ' -' . rr-ir---.fi. ;, of automobiles-only. In"other words, . its other"thiiigs that the passengers require, - ;.; ;_"":'•_ other thansale or so-called services;and automobiles5 includliig food and related ,. -: / :i-: ;:\ food stores'and shops arid-the exclusionary r ;_..- language which is used in the manufacturing > " zone was'indicative of the factr6f the Board .w r > > : which adopted this legislation was aware \;-: ;. of rthe use: of the exclusionary language. •-- They . i- did not say "Thou"shalT not in the C.l Zone." Y^\ -Q.{ji : M . ' ROBIl^ON: 1^ Very, reason that we have different = interpretation^within;" I:.-... " *"V^ am ps^d to'make the other argument;; It is- v \.:X'^iA:--.i most in^rtant, : what \is'-a'C. 1 Zonei ? Mr._•;Mitchell has asked-the Court Reporter t a & ^ \ ^ -I^irtT6f the case,"'-1 request the planning C ".-';'"- }A V = i "documents and the. "Village -:fllesj-be''ii^ .;>'?' h "a part of these records"^id'I:r^sp^tfully:^/; ^~:;};-A imake'that re<juest;:";>- ;.:_^:^ r : ~>« ^r-7-- 't; =": =- :- -/;'" V MR.' CHAIFMAN f £%»se"Vecbrds"-: are;;"..r~; W v J at our disposal at anyiti^e.^ -'-^p ;^^ W ! ' ^ S K ^ ^V-I^^W-^^^^ �102 * (That concludes all" the testimony from the witnesses) (Various spectators were heard from the floor and ^ -v y y . ,; ;;."-. gave their opinions''foryand against;the Kentucky Fried ; Chickenestablishment.) ^ ; •"-'"'--"." ••'-:-- y.-P .'•• ;./" / / :C,5 J /7 TME^CHAMM^ other questions or witnesses we will call ; y •/-.V-:T- ?--. ytfrls m e e t i n g ^ :. ^:-* - y " f ^ i.-- •; of any answer.••- The Meet ing is adjourned '.Wi} '•'/;_ (Meeting was adjournedf about 11 P.M.) - ^ ^: ^ b ^ > y ..'_-:": --;",,-- r CERTIFIED, TOs» BE i A TRUE ^ AM) ACCURATE IRANSCRIFT mmm •/Josepjf .Crareriyy^Court R ^ o r t e r . # rfxi-/--j^K-SWft-^-Wj^^ ^fevs-'-.-ij � Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. 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