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                  <text>Village of Sleepy Hollow
Zoning Board of Appeals Meeting
October 20, 2021

Chairman Timothy Church called the meeting to order at 8:00 pm.
Present:

Timothy Church, Chairman
Gorete Crowe
Sandra Tripp
Thomas Chang
Margaret Rubick

Also Present:

Sean McCarthy, Village Architect
Pamela Kroll, Secretary to the Zoning Board

Absent:

Craig Lis

Agenda:
1) Michael Gelb and Deborah Domanski, 120 Gorey Brook Road, Determination/AppealContinued public hearing
2) Larry Welch and Nana Lamouse-Welch, 67 Sleepy Hollow Road, Proposed exterior
stair and fencing- Public hearing
3) Approval of minutes - September 15, 2021

1. Michael Gelb and Deborah Domanski, 120 Gorey Brook Road, Determination/AppealContinued Public hearing
Chairman Church stated that the applicants have requested an adjournment to the November
meeting.
Motion was made to adjourn the public hearing to the November 17, 2021 meeting.
Moved: Church
Seconded: Tripp

Vote 5-0

2. Larry Welch and Nana Lamouse-Welch, 67 Sleepy Hollow Road, Proposed exterior stair
and fencing - Public hearing
Chairman Church read the public notice and listed the documents submitted with the application.
Chairman Church asked Sean McCarthy if all of the mailing receipts have been received.
Sean McCarthy stated that all of the mailing receipts have been received.
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�Chairman Church invited the applicant to present the application.
Christina Griffin is the architect representing the applicants. Ms. Griffin presented the property
survey and stated that the side yard is existing non-conforming. The application proposes to
construct an exterior stair in the side yard that will allow the applicants to gain access from the
front yard to the rear yard of the house. Ms. Griffin presented the site plan and stated that the
applicants are planning improvements to the rear patio and wish to include the addition of the
new staircase on the left side of the house. The existing side yard set-back is 5.84 feet and the
staircase is proposed to be constructed within the set-back and be 2.5 feet from the property line,
along the side of house where the existing retaining wall is located. There is an existing terrace,
within the setback, that extends to the property line.
Chairman Church requested that Christina Griffin demonstrate where the existing terrace is
located on the site plan.
Christina Griffin presented photographs and elevation drawings and indicated where the exiting
terrace is on the site plan. Christina Griffin stated that the application also proposes to extend the
4-foot high fencing on the top of the retaining wall to align with the existing fence and provide
safety from the steep drop of the property. The proposed staircase is proposed to go from the rear
patio to the upper grade and provide access from the existing terrace up to the top of the retaining
wall.
Chairman Church requested that Christine Griffin describe what currently exists.
Christina Griffin presented photographs of the existing conditions and stated that there is a
railing at the top of the retaining wall. The proposed stair would provide access from the rear
patio to the front of the house.
Chairman Church requested that Christina Griffin confirm that the neighbors on the south side
own the retaining wall and that there is currently is no access from the front yard to the rear yard.
Christina Griffin stated that the retaining wall is owned by the neighboring property and that the
applicants propose to remove the railing and install the staircase.
Chairman Church requested that Christina Griffin present an elevation drawing that shows the
proposed staircase from the south side and asked what will be viewed by the neighboring
property.
Christina Griffin stated that the neighboring property, to the left, also has a staircase against the
house and that the stairs stop where the retaining wall begins.
Gorete Crowe asked if the neighboring property has a patio on the top of the retaining wall.
Christina Griffin stated that she is not certain if there is anything beyond the retaining wall on the
neighboring property.
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�Sandra Tripp requested that Christina Griffin confirm if the only the current access to the rear
yard is from the street.
Margaret Rubick requested that Christina Griffin present the current accessibility to the rear yard
from the front of the house.
Christina Griffin presented photographs to show that because of the steep slope of the front yard,
the only way to access the rear yard is to go from the inside of the house or around on the street
and driveway.
Chairman Church asked if there has been any feedback received from the neighboring property
owners and if the house is occupied.
Christina Griffin stated that she hasn't received any comments from the neighboring property
owner and she can't confirm if the house is currently occupied.
Chairman Church stated that the stairs are a reasonable request and solicited comments from the
Board.
There were no comments from the Board.
Chairman Church requested that Christina Griffin describe the proposed fencing.
Christina Griffin stated that there is an existing piece of 4-foot high fencing at the top of the
retaining wall to the left of the garage, and that the applicants are requesting to extend the 4-foot
high fence by 9 feet, at 90 degrees, along the top of the retaining wall to provide safety from
falling over the corner of the stone wall.
Chairman Church asked Sean McCarthy if the existing 4-foot high fence is permitted on the
property.
Sean McCarthy stated that the existing fencing is within the front yard setback of the corner lot
and should have also been 3 feet in height.
Chairman Church stated that the requested variance should include the existing fence and the
proposed additional 9 feet of 4-foot high fencing.
Christina Griffin stated that the existing fencing is in good shape and that is the reason why they
are proposing to extend it.
Chairman Church asked Christina Griffin how high the drop is from the existing fence to the
driveway.
Christina Griffin estimated that there is a 7-foot drop from the existing fence to the driveway.
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�Chairman Church asked Christina Griffin if she believes that a 3-foot high fence would not be
sufficient for safety reasons in that corner.
Christina Griffin stated that in cases where there is a drop, it would probably be safer to have a 5foot high fence.
Margaret Rubick questioned how long the existing fence has been on the property.
Christina Griffin stated that the fence was installed prior to the applicants purchasing the house.
Thomas Chang asked Christina Griffin to describe what is behind the retaining wall.
Christina Griffin stated that the street is behind the retaining wall.
Motion was made to open the public hearing.
Moved: Church

Seconded: Crowe

Vote 5-0

Chairman Church solicited comments from the public.
There were no public comments.
Motion was made to close the public hearing.
Moved: Church
Seconded: Rubick
Vote 5-0
Chairman Church stated that the requested variance to construct the exterior staircase is a
reasonable request because although it will extend into the buffer zone, it will not increase the
view into the neighboring property and the neighboring property has a similar staircase. The
existence of the neighboring staircase indicates how desirable it is for the applicants. The
proposed stair will not increase the height of the home or create an eyesore.
Motion was made by Chairman Church to approve the requested variance for the exterior stair
based on the following criteria:
1. Granting of the area variance will not be detrimental to the character of the
neighborhood or the neighboring properties as the neighboring property has a similar
staircase.
2. Granting of the area variances is the only feasible method to achieve the benefits
sought by the applicants to access the rear yard from the front of the house and prevent
using the street.
3. The requested variance is not substantial when compared to the other structures that
are within the side yard setbacks.

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�4. Granting of the area variance will not have a permanent adverse effect or impact on
the physical or environmental conditions in the neighborhood.
5. The requested variance is a self-created hardship but it is difficult to access the
property's rear yard without the proposed exterior stair.
Motion was made to approve the variance for the exterior staircase as requested.
Moved: Church
Seconded: Rubick
Timothy Church, Chairman- yes
Margaret Rubick - yes
Gorete Crowe - yes
Sandra Tripp - yes
Thomas Chang - yes
Vote 5-0

APPROVED

Chairman Church stated that in regards to the proposed fencing, the Villages' 3-foot fence height
requirement for front yards and corner lots is a benefit to the community because it allows views
across properties and is safer for cars. In this case, the existing 4-foot high fence is not blocking
anyone's view because it is on top of the driveway and above a 6 to 7-foot drop. The proposed 9foot fence extension will be abutting a sloped street that already prevents views of the front yard.
The requested 9-foot extension of the fencing is reasonable but does not justify the addition of a
4-foot high fence in other areas of the property.
Chairman Church solicited comments from the Board.
Sandra Tripp stated that she is concerned about setting a precedent with the approval of variance
for 4-foot high fence and questioned if the transparency of the material can be incorporated into
the criteria of the approval.
Sean McCarthy stated that the Board could impose a condition of approval stating that the
material design is to remain similar to the existing fencing if the applicant chooses to replace it in
the future.
Motion was made by Chairman Church to approve the requested variance for the proposed 4-foot
high fencing based on the following criteria:
1. Granting of the area variance will not be detrimental to the character of the
neighborhood or the neighboring properties as the existing fence and the proposed 9foot extension of the 4-foot high fencing will not block views to the neighboring
properties due to its height and location on the property.
2. Granting of the area variance is the feasible method to achieve the benefits sought by
the applicants because they propose to continue the same style of transparent fencing
and only extend it by 9 feet.
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�3. The requested variance is not substantial from 3 feet in height to 4 feet in height when
installing the same style fence.
4. Granting of the area variance will not have a permanent adverse effect or impact on
the physical or environmental conditions in the neighborhood.
5. The requested variance is a self-created hardship but it is not the only factor that Board
considers when reviewing an application.
Granting of the area variance will include the following condition:
1. Approval is granted to install the requested 9-foot extension of 4-foot high fencing of
transparent material, similar to the existing fence. Any material change would be
required to come back to the Zoning Board of Appeals for approval.
Motion was made to approve the variance for the existing 4-foot fence and the installation of 9
feet of 4-foot high fencing as requested.
Moved: Church
Seconded: Tripp
Timothy Church, Chairman- yes
Margaret Rubick - yes
Gorete Crowe - yes
Sandra Tripp - yes
Thomas Chang - yes
Vote 5-0

APPROVED

3. Approve of minutes - September 15, 2021
Motion was made to table the September 15, 2021 minutes to the November 17, 2021 meeting.
Moved: Church
Seconded: Crowe
Motion was made to adjourn the meeting at 8:35 pm.
Moved: Church

Seconded: Crowe

Vote 5-0

Respectfully Submitted,
Pamela Kroll
Secretary to the Zoning Board of Appeals

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